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Old 04-30-2008, 06:32 PM   eBay Motors   #11 (permalink)
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Do they have to be bad to get them to change them? Will they only change the ones that are bad or all of them?
Most of the time they will give you the run around as most dealerships do. As far as replacing all eight - better hope that the injectors meet the "special" requirements as stated in the extended warranty policy. Leaking injector seats that cause fuel to contaminate the crankcase oil is the reason for the replacement. I have heard of several people who have only had 1,2 or up to 5 sometimes replaced instead of all 8. Depends on the dealership. If it were me I would find a dealership that would replace all eight. But remember they must meet the "special" requirements of the warranty per GM.
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Old 04-30-2008, 09:43 PM   eBay Motors   #12 (permalink)
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If you look at the balance rates, that will determine pass or fail. If the people that have had one and or two replaced the dealership didn't follow the bulletin. I replace all eight, and only take about 1 day down....unless injectors are on back order. Also GM covers the oil, but not the filter..if oil continimation has occured. Can't 'we' all get along??? LOL
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Old 05-01-2008, 11:59 AM   eBay Motors   #13 (permalink)
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One thing to remember. Not all injector failures are covered under the extended warrenty. As was noted previous they must meet certain guidelines. Sometimes if there are failed injectors on only one bank they wil only change that bank of injectors.
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Old 05-01-2008, 05:26 PM   eBay Motors   #14 (permalink)
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One thing to remember. Not all injector failures are covered under the extended warrenty. As was noted previous they must meet certain guidelines. Sometimes if there are failed injectors on only one bank they wil only change that bank of injectors.


Yes.....X2 This is the main reason I have a copy of the GM bulletin stashed away for safe reference in my glovebox. Hopefully GM repair tech will have their Shi* together if I ever run into a problem.
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Old 05-13-2008, 12:14 PM   eBay Motors   #15 (permalink)
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One thing to remember. Not all injector failures are covered under the extended warrenty. As was noted previous they must meet certain guidelines. Sometimes if there are failed injectors on only one bank they wil only change that bank of injectors.
my truck just got rejected for the inj swap due to rust from water in the fuel...i only have 56k miles on the truck
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Old 05-20-2008, 02:20 PM   eBay Motors   #16 (permalink)
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my truck just got rejected for the inj swap due to rust from water in the fuel...i only have 56k miles on the truck

How does one "get rust" in the tank when said tank is injection molded? What they found in your system is normal "gunk" and your filters performed exactly as they should have by capturing it. Because H20 molecules are larger than fuel molecules, more often than not injector tips break off and bounce around in the cylinder before exiting thru the exhaust and turbo. That's textbook 101 water damage to injectors.

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Old 05-21-2008, 07:58 AM   eBay Motors   #17 (permalink)
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thanks....i agree , but once again i was at the dealers mercy...so i traded in the 2500 and got the 3500 i wanted from a different dealer....
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Old 06-01-2008, 09:53 AM   eBay Motors   #18 (permalink)
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Can someone post a copy of the actual bulletin about the injector replacement that GM sent out? I did not receive a copy of it from GM and my 2003 Duramax is blowing white smoke and I had a compression test run showing injector failure in number 1 cylinder. Dealership is giving me the run around, told me they were only covered to 100,000 miles. I'd like to have something in writing to show them.

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Old 06-03-2008, 09:44 PM   eBay Motors   #19 (permalink)
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I stole this from "ob 1jr" (a super moderator on this website). It is 7 years / 200,000 miles. I have a novel posted on this site with regard to the run around from multiple dealers and GM. Don't be a jerk with the dealer but stick to you guns and stand firm. My nightmare still isn't over with this problem. I did seem to get farther when I spoke directly with the Service Manager.



File In Section: Special Coverage
Bulletin No.: 04039B
Service Bulletin Date: November 2007

SPECIAL COVERAGE
SUBJECT: SPECIAL COVERAGE ADJUSTMENT – INJECTORS - REPLACE
MODELS: 2001-2004 CHEVROLET SILVERADO
2001-2004 GMC SIERRA
2003-2004 CHEVROLET KODIAK
2003-2004 GMC TOPKICK
EQUIPPED WITH 6.6L DURAMAX DIESEL (RPO LB7 - VIN 1) ENGINE
THIS BULLETIN IS BEING REVISED TO ADD 2004 MODEL YEAR TRUCKS.
PLEASE DISCARD SPECIAL POLICY BULLETIN NUMBER 04039A, DATED
OCTOBER, 2006.
CONDITION
Some customers of 2001-04 model year Chevrolet Silverado, GMC Sierra; 2003-04 Chevrolet
Kodiak and GMC TopKick vehicles, equipped with a 6.6L Duramax Diesel (RPO LB7 - VIN 1)
engine, may experience vehicle service engine soon (SES) light illumination, low engine power,
hard start, and/or fuel in crankcase, requiring injector replacement, as a result of high fuel return
rates due to fuel injector body cracks, ball seat erosion, or high pressure seal extrusion. (refer to
latest version of Technical Service Bulletin 04-06-04-007 and SI).
SPECIAL COVERAGE ADJUSTMENT
This special coverage covers the condition described above for a period of 7 years or 200,000
miles (320,000 km), whichever occurs first, from the date the vehicle was originally placed in
service, regardless of ownership. The repairs will be made at no charge to the customer.
IMPORTANT:
This special coverage only covers the above noted failure modes, which
are identified by high fuel return flow rates.
For 2001-02 vehicles covered by Vehicle Service Contracts, all eligible claims with repair orders
on or after May 25, 2004 are covered by this special coverage and must be submitted using the
labor operation codes provided with this bulletin. Claims with repair orders prior to May 25, 2004
must be submitted to the Service Contract provider.
For 2003 vehicles covered by Vehicle Service Contracts, all eligible claims with repair orders on or
after October 10, 2006 are covered by this special coverage and must be submitted using the
labor operation codes provided with this bulletin. Claims with repair orders prior to October 10,
2006 must be submitted to the Service Contract provider.
Copyright 2004 General Motors Corporation. All Rights Reserved.

Page 2 November 2007 Bulletin No.: 04039B
For 2004 vehicles covered by Vehicle Service Contracts, all eligible claims with repair orders on or
after November 19, 2007 are covered by this special coverage and must be submitted using the
labor operation codes provided with this bulletin. Claims with repair orders prior to November 19,
2007 must be submitted to the Service Contract provider.
VEHICLES INVOLVED
Involved are all 2001-04 model year Chevrolet Silverado, GMC Sierra; 2003-04 Chevrolet Kodiak
and GMC TopKick vehicles, equipped with a 6.6L Duramax Diesel (RPO LB7 - VIN Code 1)
engine, and built within the following start of production to end of production VIN breakpoints:
YEAR DIVISION MODEL FROM THROUGH
2001 Chevrolet Silverado
1E100028 1E346644
1F100001 1F213872
1Z100015 1Z100019
2001 GMC Sierra 1E100021 1E346642
1F100010 1F213864
2002 Chevrolet Silverado 2E100009 2E306435
2F100004 2F247804
2002 GMC Sierra 2E100003 2E306345
2F100011 2F247974
2003 Chevrolet Silverado 3E100002 3E381007
3F100003 3F259043
2003 Chevrolet Kodiak 3F500015 3F522532
2003 GMC Sierra 3E100003 3E381124
3F100008 3F259040
2003 GMC TopKick 3F500001 3F900945
2004 Chevrolet Silverado 4E100018 4E221395
4F100004 4F174846
2004 Chevrolet Kodiak 4F500118 4F510079
2004 GMC Sierra 4E100002 4E223355
4F100008 4F174834
2004 GMC TopKick 4F100126 4F510077
PARTS INFORMATION
Parts required to complete this special coverage are to be obtained from General Motors Service
and Parts Operations (GMSPO).
Part Number Description Quantity/Vehicle
97729095* Injector Kit, Dir Fuel (Incls:Injector,Gasket,Seal) 8
97188896 Gasket, Valve Rocker Arm Cover
(Reusable Gasket) As Req'd
97228933 Gasket, F/Injr Fuel Return Pipe 8
97600925 Gasket, F/Injr Fuel Return Pipe 2
94011604 Seal, Water outlet 1
12378521 (US)
88901148 (CN) Sealant As Req’d
97188463 Housing, F/Injr Noz As Req'd
94051259 Seal, F/Injr Noz Hsg (O Ring) As Req'd

Page 3
November 2007 Bulletin No.: 04039B
*P/N 97729095 is only available in a merchandising pack quantity of 4. Current order restriction
limits orders to CSO and availability to 8 injectors per VIN.
CUSTOMER NOTIFICATION
General Motors will notify customers of this special coverage on their vehicles (see copy of typical
customer letter included with this bulletin - actual divisional letter may vary slightly).
SERVICE PROCEDURE
Refer to the latest version of Technical Service Bulletin 04-06-04-007 and Service Information to
perform diagnostics and fuel injector replacement for high fuel return rates.
CLAIM INFORMATION
For vehicles repaired under the terms of this special coverage, submit a claim with the information
indicated below:
IMPORTANT:
A copy of the completed TSB 04-06-04-007 diagnostic worksheet
and other required documentation (e.g. Tech 2 snapshots) must
be included in the box with the returned injectors.
REPAIR PERFORMED
PART
COUNT
PART
NUMBER
PARTS
ALLOW CC-FC
LABOR
OP
LABOR
HOURS
NET
ITEM
Refer to the latest version
of TSB 04-06-04-007 to
diagnose and replace all 8
fuel injectors.
Silverado, Sierra
Kodiak, TopKick
----* MK-95 T5603
8.0
9.7
**
Reimbursement For
Previous Repairs
(Canadian & Export
Dealers/US CAC)
N/A N/A N/A MK-95 T5604 0.2
Administrative
labor hours
***
Courtesy Transportation N/A N/A N/A MK-95 **** N/A *****
*
The "Parts Allowance" should be the sum total of the current GMSPO Dealer net price plus
applicable Mark-Up or Landed Cost Mark-Up (for IPC) for injector parts needed to complete
the repair.
**
The amount identified in the “Net Item” column should represent the sum total of the
current GMSPO Dealer net price plus applicable Mark-Up or Landed Cost Mark-Up (for
IPC) for shop supplies needed to perform the required repairs.
***
The amount identified in the “Net Item” column should represent the customer
reimbursement amount.
****
Submit courtesy transportation using normal labor operations for courtesy transportation as
indicated in the GM Service Policies and Procedures Manual.
*****
The amount identified in the "Net Item" column should represent the actual dollar amount
for courtesy transportation.

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November 2007 Bulletin No.: 04039B
CUSTOMER REIMBURSEMENT - For US
All customer requests for reimbursement for previous repairs for the special coverage condition
will be handled by the Customer Assistance Center, not by dealers.
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Old 06-04-2008, 01:04 PM   eBay Motors   #20 (permalink)
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Angry Got hosed on injectors

I was away from home when my injectors went out. My brother had the truck at the time. The dealership replaced the fuel filter and sent the truck back out. The next day the truck wouldn't start again. They checked the balance rates and found the injectors were bad. They only changed the driver side bank. I wanted the tech to change them all but they only changed 4. I wish I had been home to pursuade them to change all 8.
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