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Old 02-13-2010, 02:53 PM   eBay Motors  #1 (permalink)
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Im trying to figure out why my heated seats keep going off??? I can push the button and it'll come ono for about 2 second then it goes off, i keep pushing it and it keeps doing the same thing? Could it be a fuse? or do i need to take the door panels off it does it on drivers and passengers side? 03 LB7 crew cab
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Old 02-13-2010, 04:44 PM   eBay Motors  #2 (permalink)
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heres a GM bulletin. may or may not help...ive read several diff causes for the heated seat issue.

Document ID# 1864985
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Subject: Heated Seat Inoperative Or Shuts Off In 30 Seconds - keywords B1825 B2435 B2440 B3606 #PIT3287D - (10/02/2006)



Models: 2003-2006 Cadillac Escalade, Escalade ESV, Escalade EXT

2003-2006 Chevrolet Avalanche, Suburban, Tahoe

2003-2007 Silverado Classic

2003-2007 GMC Sierra Classic, Sierra Denali Classic

2003-2006 Yukon, Yukon Denali, Yukon XL, Yukon Denali XL

2003-2007 Hummer H2




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The following diagnosis might be helpful if the vehicle exhibits the symptom(s) described in this PI.

Condition/Concern:
Driver and passenger heated seats inoperative or shut off in 30 seconds. There will be DTCs B2435, B2440, B3606 and/or B1825 set in the Drivers Seat Module. The adjustable pedal position sensor, seat recliner position sensor and both heat seat thermistors share the same 5 volt reference internal to the Drivers Seat Module. A fault in any of these components/circuits can make the heated seats inoperative or shut off in 30 seconds, as well as, the seat recliner and/or adjustment pedals may move in short increments when operated. A fault in heated seats, adjustable pedal or seat recliner will affect BOTH heated seats.

Note:: Even if the vehicle is not equipped with adjustable pedals DTC B3606 still may set.

Recommendation/Instructions:
To help isolate the area of concern use the Tech 2 and go to "Sensor Data" in the Drivers Seat Module. Monitor the following parameters for being out of range:

Recline Position- Normal range .39V-4.58V

Pedal Position (if equipped) - Normal range .39V-4.58V

Psgr. Seat Heat Sensor- Normal range 1V-4V

Drvr. Seat Heat Sensor- Normal range 1V-4V

If a parameter is found to be out of range inspect circuits for any opens, shorts to ground, or voltage. If none found replace the suspect component.

Please be aware of the following common areas of concern:

The adjustable pedal position sensor internally shorted pulling the 5 volt reference low. Disconnect the adjustable pedal position sensor and see if the heated seats start working correctly, if so replace.
Note Important:: The APP (Accelerator Pedal Position) sensor is NOT the adjustable pedal position sensor. Make sure the correct sensor, adjustable pedal position sensor, is disconnected.

The seat recliner position sensor internally shorted pulling the 5 volt reference low. Disconnect the recliner position sensor and see if heated seats start working correctly, if so replace.
An open in either heated seat thermistor circuits (signal or low reference). The most common is the passenger thermistor where it passes through seat connector C305 pin "L" or "K" or C399 pins "R" or "G".
A chaff to ground on either heated seat thermistor signal circuits. The most common is circuit 5475 black/red or dark blue shorted to ground in the passenger seat near the buckle.
Note Important:: The heated seat thermistors act differently to "OPENS and SHORTS" than the adjustable pedal position sensor and seat recliner position sensor. The adjustable pedals and seat recliner sensors can be disconnected for testing of the heated seats. Where as the heated seat thermistor circuit must be working correctly before EITHER heated seat will operate. Disconnecting one thermistor, which may have a concern will not allow the opposite heated seat to work correctly, BOTH side must be operational before EITHER heated seat will operate.

Clearing DTCs

If DTCs will not clear when using the Tech 2 after a repair has been made, try operating the device in which the repair was made. Example, if a repair was made to the passenger heated seat thermistor circuit, the DTCs may not clear unless the passenger heated seat is operated.

Please follow this diagnostic or repair process thoroughly and complete each step. If the condition exhibited is resolved without completing every step, the remaining steps do not need to be performed.



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Document ID# 1471400
2004 Chevrolet Chevy C Silverado - 2WD


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Subject: Service Information for Front Heated Seat Inoperative/Cold #04-08-50-007 - (03/12/2004)



Models: 2003-2004 Cadillac Escalade/ESV/EXT

2003-2004 Chevrolet Avalanch/Silverado/Suburban/Tahoe

2003-2004 GMC Denali/Sierra/Yukon/Yukon XL

2003-2004 Hummer H2




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The purpose of this bulletin is to provide the technician with the following service information:

Heated Seats Switch Operation

Heated Seats Switch Diagnostics

Heated Seats Switch Customer Information

Switch Operation
The engine must be running for the heated seat feature to work. The heated seats will shut off automatically when the ignition is turned off.



Two buttons, located on the door, are used to control the heated seat.
Press the horizontal (RH) button to heat the entire seat, back and cushion.

Press the vertical (LH) button to heat ONLY the seat back.

The three light bars are an indicator of the level of heat selected for either the entire seat (horizontal button) or ONLY the seat back (vertical button).





To heat both the seat back and seat cushion at the same time, press the horizontal (RH) button with the heated seat symbol one time.
All 3 light bars will glow indicating the HIGH temperature setting.

The horizontal (RH) button does NOT have an ON/OFF indicator light.

Press the button a second time, 2 light bars will glow indicating the MEDIUM temperature setting for the entire seat.
Press the button a third time, 1 light bar will glow indicating the LOW temperature setting for the entire seat.
Press the button a fourth time to turn the entire heated seat OFF.



To heat ONLY the seat back, press the vertical (LH) button one time.
An ON/OFF indicator light over the heated seat back symbol will glow to designate that ONLY the seat back is being heated.

All 3 light bars over the horizontal (RH) button will glow indicating the HIGH temperature setting for ONLY the seat back.

Press the button a second time, 2 light bars will glow indicating the MEDIUM temperature setting for ONLY the seat back.
Press the button a third time, 1 light bar will glow indicating the LOW temperature setting for ONLY the seat back.
Press the button a fourth time to turn the heated seat back OFF.
Switch Diagnostics
Important: In order to eliminate unnecessary part replacement and comeback repairs, it is essential that the appropriate diagnostic tables and aids found in the applicable manuals are followed.

Verify the condition prior to making any repairs. Refer to Seats and Seat Controls in the applicable Owners Manual or this bulletin for proper heated seat switch operation information.
If an improperly operating front heated seat condition exists, refer to the Diagnostic Information and Procedures in the Seats sub-section of the applicable Service Manual in order to diagnose the system accurately.
When measuring the resistance of the seat heater elements, ensure the values are within the updated range of 1.5-5.5 ohms. Refer to DTC B2425 or B2430-Clearing the DTC in the Diagnostic Information and Procedures in the Seats sub-section of the applicable Service Manual.
Customer Information
Some heated seat components from the above listed vehicles have been returned to the Warranty Parts Center (WPC) for heat function not operating properly. Analyses of these parts show 'no out of specification condition' or No Trouble Found (NTF).

Provide customers with the knowledge that if bumped, either one of the heated seat switches can be activated/deactivated accidentally.
Ensure customers have a thorough understanding of how the heated seat switches function.


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Old 02-14-2010, 07:35 PM   eBay Motors  #3 (permalink)
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mine does the same. If i sit more "erect" and weight back it will stay on. I cant figure it out. what is this thing telling me?^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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Old 02-18-2010, 01:22 PM   eBay Motors  #4 (permalink)
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Did you find out the problem, mine does the same thing but only the driver side goes off?
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Old 02-18-2010, 08:15 PM   eBay Motors  #5 (permalink)
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Old 02-18-2010, 08:25 PM   eBay Motors  #6 (permalink)
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Yeah man. My passenger side doesn't work at all, and my gf complains about it all the time. Need to get it fixed some how
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Old 02-19-2010, 12:34 AM   eBay Motors  #7 (permalink)
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I had a problem with mine when I first bought the truck. I took it into the dealer and they updated my BCM. Worked fine ever since
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Old 02-19-2010, 09:54 AM   eBay Motors  #8 (permalink)
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I will keep you posted. Mine is at the dealer as I'm typing this for them to reinitialize the drivers seat module and pull codes. My Verus won't communicate with the seat module so I will let you know later on.
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Old 02-19-2010, 10:25 AM   eBay Motors  #9 (permalink)
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my drivers side heated seat doesnt work but the pass, side works just fine UNLESS i push the button to turn the drivers side on, then it shuts them both off. the drivers side i push it and the light just blinks once and goes out

im wondering if a relay could be the cause to our problems? i can hear the click of a relay when i try to turn the drivers side on but nothing else is non-functional for me
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Alright, just got it back from the dealer and they told me the drivers seat module needs to be replaced. My scanner wouldn't read Seat module codes so I had to bring it to them. Sounds like this has been a pretty common problem. Just so you know my symptoms...
The passenger side works 100% fine in all heat modes, and the power seat switch and lumbar switch work fine all the time.
When the drivers side heated seat switch is turned on, both heated seats will shut off in 2-25 seconds. If the drivers seat does stay on for 20 or so seconds I have actually felt the drivers seat start to get warm.
The dealer didn't give me a price for the module as I work at a family owned garage and I have an account at the same dealerships wholesale parts department. The module DOES need to get programmed by the dealer after replacement. They are just going to charge me for the reprogram after I install the module myself.
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