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Old 07-31-2008, 06:54 PM   eBay Motors   #1 (permalink)
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5 inch mbrp turbo back lly

after i installed the exhaust on my lly duramax i lost about 4 mpg. i also kinda noticed a drop in power. the loss didnt happen until about 3 days after. i thought exhaust was supposed to up mpgs. im not sure if its the exhaust or what. about 8 months ago i had the same problem and it was my fuel getting air due to a bad seal on the fuel pump. does anyone have any idea why this is happening.
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Old 07-31-2008, 08:02 PM   eBay Motors   #2 (permalink)
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When was the last time you changed your fuel filter?? Might check and make sure you don't have a leak where air might be getting in.
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Old 07-31-2008, 08:31 PM   eBay Motors   #3 (permalink)
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it was changed about a month ago when i got my tranney serviced. but ill check for a leak tomarrow and make sure she is snug.
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i checked the fuel filter. it snug and clean but what else could be causing this??
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Old 08-01-2008, 09:36 PM   eBay Motors   #5 (permalink)
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I read in one of the diesel magazines that unless you upgrade your turbo you shouldn't go any bigger than 4" exhaust. I don't remeber the reasons, if i come accross the artical i'll let you know.
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I heard that there is not much noticable difference between the 4 and 5" unless your pulling 500 hp....
That's the first I have heard of the turbo deal tho'....
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I read in one of the diesel magazines that unless you upgrade your turbo you shouldn't go any bigger than 4" exhaust. I don't remeber the reasons, if i come accross the artical i'll let you know.
This is correct. You need some back pressure to keep the velocity of the exhaust gases flowing. There is a simple equation for cross sections on intake manifolds that can be applied to exhaust systems. Volume versus Velocity. If you have a greater than needed volume, obviously you can flow more air but it will take longer for that air to actually fill its given volume. Velocity is with respect to how fast the air is flowing through an intake or exhaust. The smaller the exhaust, the greater the velocity but the smaller the volume.

The same example can be said for traditional (not Variable Geometry Turbos ) smaller turbochargers versus bigger turbochargers. The smaller the turbo, the quicker it will typically spool up but the less it will produce in terms of power at a higher RPM. This is do to the fact that the air flows faster because it has a smaller space to fill. With a bigger turbo, at a low rpm, it will spin slower but it can hold a great volume of air at a higher RPM.

A 5" pipe would be best suited for a high horsepower truck or one that is used at wide open throttle often (WOT). Drag racing usually requires a greater volume of air to be moved through the engine since the upper RPM band is mainly used. Some back pressure is always needed in street driven applications. In order for you to keep healthy torque numbers in check, maintaining equal pressure in the cylinders is a must.

Anyone that can ether explain it better or possibly challenge what I have to say then I'm all ears. In a nutshell, I think I got my thoughts across clearly but I'm not sure everyone can understand it.

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Old 08-02-2008, 04:24 PM   eBay Motors   #8 (permalink)
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thats what one of the mechanics at the dealership told me. but i got 5 inch for 2 reasons. for when i do get a bigger turbo and also i want my truck to be loud. i had 4 inch prior to my 5 inch i have now and it just wasnt loud enough
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I have a 5" on mine and I dont see any loss in power
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Old 08-02-2008, 10:48 PM   eBay Motors   #10 (permalink)
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I know this would be a hassle but put your stock exhaust back on and see if the new exhaust is really the problem. After so many people running 5" and not seeing this loss in power and mpgs i highly doubt the exhaust is the problem.
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