Tranny worries? - Page 2

idrivebowtie · 07-08-2007, 09:40 AM

thanks i might have to look into that

mackthehack · 07-09-2007, 10:30 PM

Stage iv or v is the complete trans from suncoast? For about 2800? What is the difference between one of those, and taking the stock alli and putting a tq converter, valve body, and possible a shift kit? Wouldn't that way be cheaper? Also in the latest dp mag, they did an article on the hot +2, if I can remember all that was done to the alli was a converter, and an ats controller.

**ob_1jr** · 07-09-2007, 10:59 PM

Stage IV is a kit that needs to be installed. I believe the stage V is a complete unit that you install and send your tranny back as core (or trade it out).

What you are talking about is a little cheaper, but to have a near bulletproof set-up, you need to change the clutches too. There isn't much benifit from changing the valve body unless you have the 5 speed and want to make it a 6 speed. The valve body comes with a shift kit already install in most cases. In stock form, the converter is the weak link...once you fix that with a new TC, the clutches start to slip. Also, that ATS controller has a comma in the pricetag, so you wouldn't be saving a whole lot going that route.

I just checked that DP magazine issue also..they said all they were running on the tranny was a converter and the copilot...those together are about 2600. (TC is 1400 and copilot for a 5 speed is 1200) Now, if you have limped your tranny already before upgrades, then you should do the clutch packs too. so, the suncoast kit isn't that bad of a deal....you just don't have the lock-up controller. That can be fixed with EFI live for about 5-700. Then you can change parameters in the allison...to what extent, I am not real sure, but I am hoping to have a chance to find out here soon.

Moral of the story....you want to play, you will pay.

**TYREBOYZ_DEMAXIN** · 07-10-2007, 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by ob_1jr

Moral of the story....you want to play, you will pay.

Ditto..but is it fun to stomp fast cars with a 1ton dually..

idrivebowtie · 07-10-2007, 08:04 PM

your tranny can handle alot just dont ask to much of the stocker

**TurboBeagleBuggy** · 07-10-2007, 08:16 PM

If I had to do it again, I would get the latest greatest converter on the market, red alto clutches, and an ATS co-pilot. I have a Suncoast Stage 4 kit in mine, but it has some rough shifts now and again. I've been in a couple of ATS equipped trucks and they seemed much smoother (stock like) going through the gears.

idrivebowtie · 07-11-2007, 08:16 PM

yah but you dont wan tsmooth you want it to hit hard so you know it is still working haha

mackthehack · 07-11-2007, 11:52 PM

Thanks for the info. Think will save up for the IV, or V.