History: purchased a few months ago. Have done minor maintenance, but it has run like a top, so nothing major as of yet. Took it on a 5000km (3000mi) trip this month. Ran perfectly. The check engine light is on for the #6 glow plug and I plan to replace the entire glow plug system after the long weekend.
Symptoms: two days ago (Wednesday), it had a little trouble starting - was turning over fine, but took longer than typical to start. Yesterday, fine starting except on my way home from work (same thing - had to keep cranking it for ~5-10s to get it to start). BUT, after starting fine in the morning, it couldn't seem to get above 50km/h (30mph) and I had to really gas it to get that. Pulled over to the side of the road, threw it in park, sat for a minute, pulled out and it ran fine; took it on the highway home with no issue (except the delayed ignition). This morning, same issue, but it started. Sat outside the house letting it warm up for a minute and it just died. Won't start. Turns over fine, but won't start. Haven't had the opportunity to hook it up to the OBDII scanner yet since the issues started. My thought (and take this with a large grain of salt, as I'm no mechanic) is bad fuel - I filled up at a station that had really old pumps on Sunday. My boat had the same symptoms this summer with gas that had sat over the winter. It was my first time filling up at that station and I had no option, as I was almost out - it was a reputable station (Petro Canada, for those of you who live in the great white north).
Anyways, now the truck won't start. Thoughts? Suggestions? Questions? Obviously I'll hook up the scanner when I get home, but had to get a lift to work and won't have access to the truck until then.
If you haven't changed fuel filter now would be a good time to do so. If you have changed it try to prime the system. If your loosing prime it's prolly time for a new filter head (or maybe get you'll get lucky and just need a rebuild kit) and new hoses to/from the filter head. Filter head is a common place to wrap/crack causing loss of prime, and the hoses get old and brittle and can cause problems as well.
Edit: YouTube can walk you thru all of the above with visual if you are unfamiliar with the fuel system.
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Thanks - I was thinking of checking the filter as well. Just didn't have time for anything this morning before work. Hopefully it's just the filter - we'll see!
Sounds like it isn't getting fuel to fire. And if it started and just died then that leads me to think fuel issue as well. Not necessarily bad fuel either. Diesel really isn't the same as gas You can get bad stuff but the truck should burn it off unless its really cold and it gels up. I'd take a look at what 830king said first. And as he said too no fuel pump!!
Get a filter from a local parts store, if at all possible avoid the ones the plastic housing. What I do is order racor from Dmaxstore, they are under $30....shipping is a little spendy, but if you get 3 or 4 shipping won't go up by much. And you'll have a few to put behind the backseat in case of roadside emergency. Expect to pay ~$40 from your local auto parts store.
We changed the fuel filter ~9500km (6000mi) ago. This being my first diesel, I don't know - is that a usual replacement time frame? I'm going to do the oil this weekend as well, if I'll be under the hood anyways.
That seems early, but if you got a bad tank of fuel anything is possible. Remember that your fuel system is under a vacuum (unless you add a lift pump) to the cp3. So if the filter or wif sensor (bottom plug on filter) or bleeder screw is loose you won't have a fuel leak, you will just have a place to suck air into the system and loose prime after shutting engine off. The wif (water in fuel) and plastic bleeder screw are common areas to crack and let air into the system. Billet wif delete plugs and bleeders screws are nice and fairly reasonably priced.
Further research sure seems to indicate the fuel filter needs to be changed. Anyone have any brands they recommend above others? Last one was a Baldwin, but also heard good things about AC Delco. Thoughts? Will definitely be carrying a spare around going forward.
Yes, the filter should be full. Open the bleed screw next to the primer pump, pump the primer until clear fuel comes out, close the primer screw-[careful-plastic] pump the primer until firm. Might want someone to pump the primer while you crank the engine.
Got it running, thanks. Tried to replace my Baldwin BF9882 filter with the ACDelco TP3012F and the ACDelco would not go on, no matter what I tried. Tried to get that thing on for an hour - eventually gave up and put the Baldwin back on in 30s. Primed it and eventually got it started. We installed the Balwdin BF9882 9500km ago. I'm going to try again to get the new filter installed, but my god, why won't it go on? Anyone else experienced this issue? It's like the interior port (sorry, don't know the proper name, but the port with the inner seal) is too tall and won't allow the threads to grip. ACDelco's website says it's the right filter. My local auto parts store says the same. I'd think I was doing something incredibly wrong, but the Baldwin went on without any issue. We'll see if it starts again in the morning.
I usually get the filter situated close, then I take my left hand and stick it under the wheel well liner and push up on the bottom of the filter with my fingers while spinning the filter with my right hand over the fender. It does help some to take the battery out.....little more wiggle room that way.
I had the wheel well and the turbo hose out, but I was pushing up as hard as I could while spinning and it wouldn't go on - wouldn't grab any threads and didn't even look close to doing so. I am not the world's strongest man, but I'm no weakling. Going to try again tomorrow and if it doesn't go, try to exchange it for another Baldwin filter. I'm more frustrated by the principle of me not being able to do it, more than it not working.
Remove the pass side battery and the intake tube. With those out, the filter will drop down from the top, your left arm can fit thru where the batt was, right arm thru where the intake was.
With both hands on it and both arms in a position of full leverage, it should make it easy to apply upward pressure on the new seal and get the threads started.
Note; make sure the old filter's inner seal is not still stuck on the filter head center.
i Okay, so I'm able to get the ACDelco filter on, but only if I remove the inner gasket. Is this what you're supposed to do? The O-ring would still go on (outer and inner) but I can't think of why they would supply something that you're meant to throw away. Also, when the WIF is not installed, I should be able to see right through the fuel filter, correct?
That inner seal you're removing from the new filter...if the old filter's inner seal has come loose from the filter (sometimes they do) and is still 'stuck' on the old filter head...well, two won't fit.
Yep - that was totally it. Got it installed today and ran fine after install. We'll see how it goes tomorrow morning after not priming prior to starting. Knock on wood.
Seems to be starting fine now - thanks for all the help!
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