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2001 - 2007.5 (GMT800) Non Powertrain Discussion of 01 to 07.5 Topics Not related to the Powertrain, interior, suspensions, body,wheels, tires, ect.

 
       

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Old 03-24-2008, 02:19 PM   eBay Motors   #11 (permalink)
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Keys are not the way to go. They max out your travel. Most of the time you can just use your factory keys to get what after markey key will do.

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Old 03-24-2008, 02:20 PM   eBay Motors   #12 (permalink)
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I have the Ready lift on my truck. I did not crank the bars up any with it so it is not completely level but is real close. Rides the same and have had no problems.
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Old 03-24-2008, 02:44 PM   eBay Motors   #13 (permalink)
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Here is what a stock GM UCA and factory frame stop should look like.
* This space will very on every truck that comes off the show room floor because GM sets there trucks up alittle deferent per what tire package they put on the truck.





After you crank your bars up you start to loose rebound/drop out travel.



When you turn your keys up you limit the travel first with your factory shock. Easy fix with extenders or longer shocks.




After the shock you loose drop out travel between the UCA and frame stop. A bad ride at that point, metal to metal. You also get a bad factory ball joint angle that binds and will wear out fast. Also the factory UCA does not allow for correct alignment spec. most of the time.





Turning your bars up are the number 1 upgrade GM owners do to get a little bigger tire under there trucks. So Cognito looked at the problems that occur and came up with there Cognito 2-3 leveling UCA kit. The bases is to correct ball joint angle and alignment specs. When testing there set up they found that the factory CV shafts will allow for alittle more drop out than factory allows. So when you find that the stance you get after cranking your bars is where you want your truck to sit and your ride has gone bad then you have ran out of drop out travel, the Cognito UCA will give you 2" more drop out from there to gain your ride back.








Again does the Cognito UCA kit give you lift? No, it corrects the problems that occur when you level your truck with factory UCA.

- For guys that are drag racing using 4wd and sled pullers, this kit is not for you because the CV angles are greater than you can use at that torq. when in 4wd. A 4" lift with a drop front diff. will work better since you will have level CV angles not cranked up.

- Guys that are every day drivers and regular 4wd offroading, this kit is great for you to get bigger tires under the truck for a better look.

- This kit works best with Bil5100's front and back.
- You can add a rear 1" block and u-bolt to raise the rear as well.




Hope this helps....



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Old 03-25-2008, 04:49 AM   eBay Motors   #14 (permalink)
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Very good informative write-up. thanks
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Old 04-25-2008, 11:58 PM   eBay Motors   #15 (permalink)
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Good to know..
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Old 04-26-2008, 12:14 AM   eBay Motors   #16 (permalink)
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So with all that said . does that mean ready lift leveling kits are bad to put on your truck.
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Old 04-26-2008, 09:34 AM   eBay Motors   #17 (permalink)
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So with all that said . does that mean ready lift leveling kits are bad to put on your truck.
If you over crank then yes. It comes down to all the key leveling kits over project lift on your front end. If you can get the lift that still keeps you in the area of a good right then those kits pretty much waist your money.



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Old 04-26-2008, 10:44 AM   eBay Motors   #18 (permalink)
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Sounds like its a double edged sword here. either go with a cheaper leveling kit and wear out fron end parts faster, or IMO if your going to spend that much mney to level a truck, you're almost better off spending the little extra money and getting a 4 or 6 in lift kit.
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Old 04-26-2008, 11:02 AM   eBay Motors   #19 (permalink)
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Pretty much. Just depends how much you want to sink into it and if you even want to go as high as a full lift.
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Old 07-01-2008, 12:13 AM   eBay Motors   #20 (permalink)
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Hey nick Ive been thinking about doing this leveling kit on my truck but do i need to do all the other stuff that they sell as well (i.e. all the steering upgrades and i pitman control part) ??? I race in baja and do alot of off roading but my tuck is only a support truck that hauls parts and tows and will come in if it needs to, but its not "mobbed" as the kids say. thanks for any help looking to get all the stuff for you so let me know.
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