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post #1 of 27 (permalink) Old 01-09-2017, 08:59 PM Thread Starter
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Need help ASAP.. 2017 duramax vs powerstroke

I have a 2015.5 Denali duramax that I have really liked except it just hasn't had enough punch for me with the 6" lift and 35's. I need a tax right off for my business this year so I'm getting a new truck. My truck sold surprisingly quick and now I have to make a quick decision on my new ride. I've gotten some advice on the ford forum but of course they are very biased. So whats everyone's opinions on the new ford vs the new Dmax?? With the new motor on the GMC it makes me a little nervous, where the powerstroke is quite proven. The frame and axles on the ford are more robust for sure but I don't tow much at all. The I will be lifting either one I get with 37's. I do like the Denali grill more than the new ford. Anyways I look forward to your guys opinions on these trucks. Thanks in advance for any input!
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The Ford is a stout platform, and I wrestled with this before buying my Duramax- although I bought the less powerful '16. My brother in-law picked up a '17 F350 Lariat Diesel- loaded- this past weekend. It is a nice truck for sure, but the interior styling feels 'bulky' to me and was not to my liking. I think the grill and headlights are horrendous especially with the myriad of LEDs on the Lariat- but that's not my thing either. The body doesn't have as nice lines as the GM product and looks more like a work truck.

The latest iteration of the Powerstroke is a beast and proven to be reliable to this point. The solid axle suspension is more robust out of the box and easier to lift albeit at a similar cost for similar quality suspension system. The Ford is a good truck without question.

FYI- this is from a guy who owns two Early Ford Broncos, has always driven a Ford truck and just got out of an F250 to jump into the Duramax...

The reason I went with the '16 D-Max... proven platform, I didn't need the 150+ more torque by any of the big three and of all the trucks, the GM styling (inside and out) was just nicer in my opinion (I went with the High Country). The year end and leftover model discounts were also a nice incentive. GM has come a long way- prior to the 15/16 model years, I was not a fan of GMs styling with exception of the Tahoes (my wife is on her third). Being an engineer and having worked in the suspension industry at one time, I have never been a big fan of the IFS- with some mods it will work for my needs.

The unproven nature of the L5P is the only concern I would have... but I would probably stay with the GM product (either GMC or Chevy) on the '17 designs. Good luck either way.
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I just put 1.000 miles on my 17 and its a great truck. Came out of a 16 for the new motor. It's high and day difference. Truck is very quite inside

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I'd probably buy the Ford if I were you. More room in the cab and more creature comforts. Not to mention air vents in the back seat


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The Ford is a stout platform, and I wrestled with this before buying my Duramax- although I bought the less powerful '16. My brother in-law picked up a '17 F350 Lariat Diesel- loaded- this past weekend. It is a nice truck for sure, but the interior styling feels 'bulky' to me and was not to my liking. I think the grill and headlights are horrendous especially with the myriad of LEDs on the Lariat- but that's not my thing either. The body doesn't have as nice lines as the GM product and looks more like a work truck.

The latest iteration of the Powerstroke is a beast and proven to be reliable to this point. The solid axle suspension is more robust out of the box and easier to lift albeit at a similar cost for similar quality suspension system. The Ford is a good truck without question.

FYI- this is from a guy who owns two Early Ford Broncos, has always driven a Ford truck and just got out of an F250 to jump into the Duramax...

The reason I went with the '16 D-Max... proven platform, I didn't need the 150+ more torque by any of the big three and of all the trucks, the GM styling (inside and out) was just nicer in my opinion (I went with the High Country). The year end and leftover model discounts were also a nice incentive. GM has come a long way- prior to the 15/16 model years, I was not a fan of GMs styling with exception of the Tahoes (my wife is on her third). Being an engineer and having worked in the suspension industry at one time, I have never been a big fan of the IFS- with some mods it will work for my needs.

The unproven nature of the L5P is the only concern I would have... but I would probably stay with the GM product (either GMC or Chevy) on the '17 designs. Good luck either way.
^^Exactly! I too drove the '17 powerstroke and I was thoroughly impressed with that engine. It rode and handled great. The interior has had a facelift from the '16, but is just not to my liking either. Yes, bulky discribes it. It was even taller than the '16 duramax I bought. Found a '16 built as if I had ordered it and got an excellent deal on it. I wanted a proven platform and don't really need the hp increase of the '17. I want to see how the L5P does before I jump on that ship.

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I'd probably buy the Ford if I were you. More room in the cab and more creature comforts. Not to mention air vents in the back seat


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Is this sarcasm?

Surely you wouldn't let the absence of air vents in the backseat of a heavy duty truck determine which truck you wanted to buy.


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When paying 60+ thousand dollars for a truck (heavy duty makes no difference) details matter, especially when the competition offers what you're lacking. I have a 15.5 ltz duramax that I like ok, but the new rams and fords have more options. It depends on what you want I guess. I like the drivetrain and looks of mine better, but they have things that gm doesn't offer. (I.e backup camera in 3rd brake light, puddle lights, 5th wheel hookup without rails, more rear seat space, air conditioned seats that actually blow cold air)


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My friend is a Ford Diesel mechanic and has been for 15 years. I asked him what i should buy when i was looking at trucks his advice was this: if you want a Ford F250, get a 6.2l gas one. They are bulletproof trucks. He has personally replaced 15- 6.7l Powerstrokes since 2011. Not to mention the numerous fuel pumps and turbos. He said if you want a diesel, get a duramax or Ram/ Cummins. The GM will ride better and has better transmission. The Ram has a great engine, but a weak front end. Take your pick...

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When paying 60+ thousand dollars for a truck (heavy duty makes no difference) details matter, especially when the competition offers what you're lacking. I have a 15.5 ltz duramax that I like ok, but the new rams and fords have more options. It depends on what you want I guess. I like the drivetrain and looks of mine better, but they have things that gm doesn't offer. (I.e backup camera in 3rd brake light, puddle lights, 5th wheel hookup without rails, more rear seat space, air conditioned seats that actually blow cold air)


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The new GM's have more options to. You're not comparing apples to apples.

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I may be biased cause iv been a BOW TIE TILL I DIE kinda, yes i have owned fords, still own a 72 bronco, i had an 04 Lightning, i had a 7.3 with over 400,000 miles on it, im on my 2nd LBZ, and now waiting on my new L5P. But to me there is a reason chevy is still running a 6.6 duramax, why change platforms when you can improve on what you already have. Yes it is a bummer that the rear seats dont have venta on the back of the center console, not a deal breaker beacuse they still get air flow from the vent under the seat. Yes its a bummer no heated seats for the rear seats, but when will i be sitting in the back, 90% of the time it will be my kids in car seats anyways, even if i had the option it would get used for another 3 to 4 years when one of them could sit on the actual seat. And i do believe gm has the 5th wheel and gooseneck hitch prep package that has not rail system in the bed for the curt hitches. The chevy/gm ride will always be better then the straight axle of ford and ram, i would rather replace smalled cheaper parts on the IFS system then have to shell out 3 grand every time the ram needs front end work, and never get the death wobble either. But that is my opinion, and i am BOW TIE TILL I DIE and that is why I ordered the truck that i ordered
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