I am wondering where to get good quality diesel. Last I checked a few years ago any station selling amoco fuels was a good choice. But in my recent research on filters I found there is no such thing as amoco fuel. The BP stations in the US switched over to BP fuels a couple years ago. Around Rochester, MN where I used to live just about everything was amoco, because that is what was readily available. There were a few stations that stuck with their own brand, but even the kwik trips just sold amoco.
Now I moved and amoco fuels have become BP. I don't know if BP kept up with the quality fuel or not. There aren't many BPs around me either, we have a lot of Clark and Holiday stations, and I don't know what fuels they sell or what quality the fuel is.
I have found that the quality of fuel makes a big difference, not only in how the engine runs, but also injector problems, gelling, filter plugging, and mileage.
Yes cetane is only one part of the equation, but most of the time it also reflects the quality of the fuel. And you're right, stagnant fuel is no good either.
It would figure that the highest would be amoco, since it no longer exists (according to BP), it has all been switched to BP fuels. Plus most of the BP stations around me are going out of business. A few have become holidays recently.
Does anyone know where Clark gas stations get their fuels? Or anything particular to northern MN?
I found out about Clark, they used to use clark fuels, until the company was split and sold in 2001. Now each station is choosing where to get fuel from. I guess some are still getting their fuel from the same refineries in WI, but owned by a different company.
I also found out where wally world, and the other generic places are getting their fuel. It is a bulk fuel, mixed from different smaller companies that have unsold excess. Then sold to the highest bidder for a lower price. Basically just like everything else at wally world.
Around here they all get their fuel from the same plant same tanks Diesel mechanic for 20 years in the oilfields and plants, same with gas . At the end of filling they climb on top pull a sample then add an additives package . Seen the same truck deliver Walmart s then Exxon Mobil across the street . Ask a driver on a fuel truck . Also worked as a licensed engineer on supply boats bought sold pumped fuel for offshore rigs and the boats themselves . Irony is working for one company and getting fuel from another for them to drill with .
I have a friend that worked for chevron and he use tell me that chevron would add the fuel additives at the refinery for the different companies. Meaning the diesel may come from chevron but, goto a mobil filling station with mobil's additive package. I grew up near a Phillips refinery and they pretty much supplied all the fuel for the area.
This is correct. I work for Chevron and we have Exxon etc trucks/barges etc load at our facilities. Diesel is pretty straight forward. The gasoline is what has the different additive packages added to it. They all have to meet the same minimum specifications. Some companies allow more "give away" or "fat" when they blend the fuels.
I always try to buy from Truck Stops if I can, my thinking is higher demand @ the pump means fresher fuel, and it's a bit cheaper also than some gas stations by the house.
When it is pumped from offshore,or travels over pipeline,do you actually think they have a guy that says ''hey hurry and close the valve,we don't want exxon diesel mixing with Shell diesel...?:rof.It all comes from the same place,the difference is what each fuel supplier mixes in after refining.WANT THE BEST DIESEL IN THE COUNTRY???USE AMOCO IF YOU CAN...ALL of Amoco's diesel is produced right here in the United States,NOT ONE drop of Amoco diesel comes from overseas!!![that what i heard no joke]That is the diesel,I don't know for the rest of their fuels...I try to get Amoco when I can help it,i find it's good fuel....
When it is pumped from offshore,or travels over pipeline,do you actually think they have a guy that says ''hey hurry and close the valve,we don't want exxon diesel mixing with Shell diesel...?:rof.It all comes from the same place,the difference is what each fuel supplier mixes in after refining.WANT THE BEST DIESEL IN THE COUNTRY???USE AMOCO IF YOU CAN...ALL of Amoco's diesel is produced right here in the United States,NOT ONE drop of Amoco diesel comes from overseas!!![that what i heard no joke]That is the diesel,I don't know for the rest of their fuels...I try to get Amoco when I can help it,i find it's good fuel....
I don't guess that I can say without a doubt that foreign diesel has never been sold at a Chevron station. I wouldn't think so but I don't know what goes on in other market places. Even if any company sells imported diesel it still has to meet the same minimum specifications and I can assure you none of the big company's like to have "fat" or better than minimum specs because they are loosing money. Again just because you buy diesel at Amoco doesn't mean it was distilled at a Amoco refinery.
I know in the southeast I work at one of the largest refinery's there is and we do not import diesel. We export diesel to a lot of foreign markets as well as supply much of the southeast.
From what the news things and other places on the web say Amoco is no more. BP bought them out and kept using their fuel for a couple years, but as of 2008 Amoco no longer produces fuel. Sucks I know, but that is the global market.
We dont have anything like that in Indiana. At least not where i'm from. anyone know other names the best producers go by? we have speedways or super americas. some marathons that are independently owned, and some bp's that are also private owners.
This is actually pretty interesting. I live near the interstate where the local truckstop sells about 140,000 gallons of diesel weekly. No need to worry about it being fresh.
same here but to go there you have to have a dot # and i dont own one personally but i could just use one off a semi, but my luck i would get charged with something
This was a very informative thread for me ,I am surprised the differance in cetane ratings between major brands that makes alot of differece in engine preformance and milage does it not.
I'll be honest with you, I don't pay attention to the cetane rating. One of my good friends is the jet/diesel production specialist at our refinery. I will check with him on what the minimum is what effects it has on performance.
Cetane varies by region and season.
The tanker trucks get the fuel they are delivering from the same tanker. Most important is how fresh it is. Truck stops have higher turnover, less water and contaminants.
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