2006 Duramax Transplant (without electronics)

[gr8shot]

If the dmax engine is in good shape then sell it! Its worth what two ppumped 12valve cummins are worth. Sell it and it'll fund an entire cummins swap.

I did a cummins swap last year in a 95 chevy and its an awesome rig. Puts down 250hp and gets 20-23mpg every tank. Its not too difficult and MUCH MUCH MUCH cheaper than the stuff you're talking about doing.

Yes the CONCEPT of a mechanically controlled dmax is an easy one to understand. The EXECUTION of it will prove to be both extremely expensive, and not as powerful or efficient as an electronically controlled engine. You're looking at having to make a set of one off, totally custom heads to fit injectors that wont supply enough fuel to make respectable horsepower. I don't know a lot about the db2 but there aren't many hotrod 6.2s or 6.5s out there. They top out at maybe 250hp. So that being said... if your plan did work, you'd have enough fuel for 250hp. Not worth the time by any means.

Why not spend a little time learning about the electronics of the dmax. You may find that its well within your capabilities to wire one up.

If you can't do it the right way, then sell the motor and fund a cummins swap instead. You can buy a ppumped 12v for $1500-1800 all day everyday. That dmax motor should sell for like $3k I'd imagine.

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[Yellow is Good]

Originally Posted by SEABEE_Dmax

EMP, electro-magnetic pulse= weapon. Kills all electronic devices in its range. Car electronics fried= useless car/truck. That being said, the idea of elctronic free duramax is awesome, not impossible just d@mn near. If you are lacking the funds then completely re-enginerring the fuel system doesnt seem possible. Its going to cost some cheddar. Might as well sell the core and pick up a cheap 12V and make it work. My 2 cents.

Ahh I see, basically how my farm tractor works. Once i start it i can remove the key. guess I will start commuting on my tractor, never know when I may be threatened by EMP

Honestly thanks for the enlightenment!

[Hotdogstand]

Originally Posted by TDFDiesel

The EMP was the only feasible justification that I could see for trying to eliminate electronics, but you still have electronics in your starting system.

But not necessarily semi-conductor components, which are the type damaged by ESD/EMP. A battery and wires, with simple switches and relays is a pretty robust system. It's digital electronics that you'll have to worry about.

That being said, waste of time. If you are trying to install a dmax on the cheap, buy a wrecked truck. Take the entire harness (everything) and put it in your truck. They can be had from $500 up to several thousand depending on the condition and you can sell what you don't need. A lift-out duramax goes for $3500-7000 (in my experience), so if you picked up an LBZ for less, it's junk, or sell it and start over your project right.

BT Diesel Works sells a stand-alone controller, but it would almost be cheaper to just get a wrecked truck than purchase all of the sensors outright if your engine doesn't have any.

Best of luck, however. Never let it be said I told you something was impossible.

[Lwesley]

Does anyone else feel like this is straight off of the Red-Green Show? "I got this duramax sitting here, an old pickup that needs a motor and a roll of ductape. I think I can make it work!"

[06CCDMAX]

Originally Posted by KevinWielenga

What in the hell did i just read
If you want mechanical then go mechanical these engines were designed for an intended pupose not to be mismatched and thrown together. Oh and am EMP......ok lets all just get 12v's just in case rolleyes:
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Cummins.. I've got a Mercedes Unimog. Even the start circuit is basic and robust. I would be shocked if I even lost a light after an EMP in that.



That said Lilrogue78, if a BOV is your thought, I think a true faraday cage setup with all the electronics centralized, and grounds isolated with fast acting breakers and a cutoff when not in use is a MUCH simpler and HELL of a lot cheaper option.

[tq01lb7]

Troll thread forced close on my autoguide app.. My phone even thinks this is a dumb idea

Sounds like a 6.5 bored out to a 6.6 would suit your needs better, drop one of those in your truck stick some dmax badges on it and impress all your friends that way this is a terrible idea all over especially from your "budget" outlook

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[Lilrogue78]

LOL Well im glad i at least got some people interested. i did some more research and studying of the head design on the Dmax today... and am beginning to believe this is much more difficult then initally thought buy on the flip side sill not impossible... but i agree guys.. Go electrons or Go 12V Who wantas to trade a 12v for a Dirtymax longblock with CP3 and injectors? I would love a trans with it. Auto or stick (preferrably stick)

[New to me GMC]

Originally Posted by gr8shot

If the dmax engine is in good shape then sell it! Its worth what two ppumped 12valve cummins are worth. Sell it and it'll fund an entire cummins swap.

I did a cummins swap last year in a 95 chevy and its an awesome rig. Puts down 250hp and gets 20-23mpg every tank. Its not too difficult and MUCH MUCH MUCH cheaper than the stuff you're talking about doing.

Yes the CONCEPT of a mechanically controlled dmax is an easy one to understand. The EXECUTION of it will prove to be both extremely expensive, and not as powerful or efficient as an electronically controlled engine. You're looking at having to make a set of one off, totally custom heads to fit injectors that wont supply enough fuel to make respectable horsepower. I don't know a lot about the db2 but there aren't many hotrod 6.2s or 6.5s out there. They top out at maybe 250hp. So that being said... if your plan did work, you'd have enough fuel for 250hp. Not worth the time by any means.

Why not spend a little time learning about the electronics of the dmax. You may find that its well within your capabilities to wire one up.

If you can't do it the right way, then sell the motor and fund a cummins swap instead. You can buy a ppumped 12v for $1500-1800 all day everyday. That dmax motor should sell for like $3k I'd imagine.

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Not to stick up for the potential abortion. But i believe the DB2's are capable feeding enough fuel to scratch the 400 horse mark. The engines dont hold together at that power level though.

[gr8shot]

Originally Posted by Lilrogue78

LOL Well im glad i at least got some people interested. i did some more research and studying of the head design on the Dmax today... and am beginning to believe this is much more difficult then initally thought buy on the flip side sill not impossible... but i agree guys.. Go electrons or Go 12V Who wantas to trade a 12v for a Dirtymax longblock with CP3 and injectors? I would love a trans with it. Auto or stick (preferrably stick)

If I had a 12v laying around I'd trade you straight across in a heartbeat!

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[clevy]

You would seriously be better off finding a 6.5 and building it to your liking...