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| Drivetrain Discussion on gearing, CV joints, driveshafts, axles, brakes, etc. |
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| 2006 Duramax Transplant (without electronics) Okay now i understand there WILL be complexity with my design that i want but i wont let it discourage me and i want this to be custom and to have all my buddies envy me for this. I cant afford a duramax powered truck so im going to build it. I am starting with a very strong frame and a 98 Silverado body with 1976 Solid axles under it and divorced transfer case. now i have been contemplating what to use to make this trucks heart beat. I have a 7.3 international engine and trans from a ford van with a banks turbo... Just not what i want tho. and a 1985 Mack inline 6 engine with 4 speed trans (to bulky)... Okay enough rambling im sure i have many people already rolling their eyes about this... I found myself a 2006 durmax engine complete (missing front accessories, electronics, and turbo) i can provide a turbo and accessories easily enough. but now my huge problem arises. I dont want all the electronics. not only because i dont like electronic head aches but i cant afford paying loads of money for a standalone engine control harness and ecm. I want to know what its going to take to run this engine like a typical diesel. Injection pump feeding the injectors, and a glow plug controller. Done. Clean and Simple i would be willing to deal with wiring the drive by wire system for the electronic throttle control but thats about all i want. my biggest two issues i have are can i eliminate the electronic injectors? and what pump can i replace this one with since it does not control timing itself? thanks for ANY input. Dave Last edited by Lilrogue78; 11-20-2012 at 12:05 AM. |
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| Duramax transplant (Electronics Elimination) I just picked up a 2006 dirtymax engine and i DO NOT want it to have all the electronics that they come stock with if i can help it. I want to install a late 6.2/early gen6.5 DB-2 Stanadyne IP i understand this will have a good bit of fabrication involved... fabbing mounts, Fabbing gear installation, fabbing fuel lines... i want to either find injectors that dont have electronic open and close electronically or to gut that portion of my injectors so it will flow freely. now my BIGGEST questions are. Who knows of a pump what would be in existance that would take less fabrication? If it exists. and Injectors? does anything exist that would make this easier for me? now for the BIGGEST question of them all. will this IP i want to use provide enough PSI and Flow to allow this engine to perform? after all this BS i know i can deal with the rest... Simplicity from there on outThanks guys! i really hope someone out here can see my idea here and maybe toss in their $.02 Dave Yes i know i posted this already in general discussion but i posted the full build i am doing in that section so people can see what i really got going on here |
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| Why? I don't think this is a feasible concept. How are you going to find an injector to fit? Time the injectors? Why would you want to do this? Why not just get a different diesel engine that was mechanical already?
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| Your better of going with a 12v cummins. If you want mechanical injection then swap in something that already is mechanically injected
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| timing the injectors does not seem difficult. all i need to do is attach the lines in the proper firing order. Correct? I dont think im off on this idea... and what engine would you suggest? Ford? not enough power unless i go power stroke.then im still dealing with wiring Cummins.. To common also another issue is i dont have access to a cheap one. |
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| My first response is to tell you to troll harder. Clearly you are A: A troll (most likely scenario at this time) B: In WAY over your head. Haha... More power from mechanical injectors. C: Pursuing some unreasonable concept you heard about or dreamed up somewhere based on some misunderstood information provided by someone who likely was also misinformed. D: A troll.....
__________________ Tony Non Vendor contact information, URLs and/or links are NOT allowed in signatures OR on forum! My opinion is not the opinion of Duramax Forum, Auto Forums, Auto Guide, or other Duramax Forum staff members! CLICK TO READ: FORUM RULES AND DF STAFF! Thank you Rob Coddens (Idaho Rob), Dustin @ ATP, Scott @ SDP, Kory Willis, and Mike L. for all of your help! Shhh... I sold my Dmax and I own a gasser now, don't tell anyone!!! I'll buy another Dmax soon, probably LLY or LBZ. |
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| We'll say 1 trolling thread is sufficient, I've merged your two threads.
__________________ Tony Non Vendor contact information, URLs and/or links are NOT allowed in signatures OR on forum! My opinion is not the opinion of Duramax Forum, Auto Forums, Auto Guide, or other Duramax Forum staff members! CLICK TO READ: FORUM RULES AND DF STAFF! Thank you Rob Coddens (Idaho Rob), Dustin @ ATP, Scott @ SDP, Kory Willis, and Mike L. for all of your help! Shhh... I sold my Dmax and I own a gasser now, don't tell anyone!!! I'll buy another Dmax soon, probably LLY or LBZ. |
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| Alright i appologize for the duplicate threads. I wont let it happen again but im not sure this should be under the duramax 2006-7.5 section considering the mod i am doing is not going to be year specific. shouldnt it be part of the Aftermarket Mod section? Hope my second guessing wont bother you |
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| and could you please inform me on why you feel i am trolling? and why i am the source of such humor at this point? I felt i was coming to one of the best diesel sites on the web that has to do with diesel and its modification with many people that have vast amounts of knowledge. Also. the modification i am wanting to do doesnt seem unreasonable to me. it would be like taking a 5.7 vortec and slapping a carb/intake on it with a HEI ignition system and making a great deal of power. Also to clarify im not some 16yr old punk wannabe mechanic dreaming of having an award winning custom truck. I am just a guy thinking outside the box and looking at transplanting a system from one engine to another that is similiar in design and concept. Does any of this seem that unreasonable? |
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