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03-18-2016 06:37 PM
Hook'em_Horns!
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Originally Posted by sgtskid View Post
The Cat has a 2 micron absolute rating - better than the AC Delco. The Donaldson has a 3 micron absolute rating (IIRC), again better than AC Delco.
No, it's not. You're being misled. Even the official Cat literature tells you so, and it's claim is based against the Racor made TP3012, not the new TP3018 (which claims to be the same rating, but no testing on it has been published).

And, the Donaldson @3 hasn't been updated to the new testing standards either.

More in-depth;
http://www.duramaxforum.com/forum/07...ml#post6836953

My point is, you're spending $100 on an adapter, so you can save $12.50 every filter change (8 changes to break even), using a lower efficiency rated Cat filter, vs either the Baldwin or Racor on the stock head with no adapter, each of which has a higher 99+% eff rating, vs the cat's 98%.

It's not an improvement.
03-18-2016 02:23 PM
sgtskid Here is a link to the latest on the Parker/Racor filter PFF50216

http://www.parker.com/literature/Rac...216_-_7717.pdf
03-18-2016 02:03 PM
nastynotchback1 GM But I would say the Cat would be the only other filter to use.
03-18-2016 01:51 PM
sgtskid
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Originally Posted by Hook'em_Horns! View Post
This ^^ is so wrong on many levels. With the new ISO testing standards, the Cat is not 2µm filter, old data from years ago. The old number TP3012 was the Racor PFF50216, rated at 4µm absolute (what Bosch desires) @99% efficiency. They are 'bout $32-$35/ea.

The new TP3018 hasn't been out long enough for ANY testing to show up, much less being compared to a lesser Cat filter.

With that $100 adapter allowing you to use a lesser filter, you'd have to drive upwards of 100k miles just to break even on your investment.....just so you can run a cheaper filter, with no water protection, AND lesser particulate filtration.

It's a backward move. You'd be better off puttin' the $$ toward a small LP and quality aux filtration.
I drive an average of 30,000 miles a year and change the filter every 10,000 miles. The cheapest I have found AC Delco TP3018 fuel filters is $27.50 if I buy 6 from diesel filters online. One can argue the micron rating is 4 or 10 made in China or not....

Cat 1r-0750 cost $15 or a Dondaldson $17 (with water separator) locally. The Cat has a 2 micron absolute rating - better than the AC Delco. The Donaldson has a 3 micron absolute rating (IIRC), again better than AC Delco. If I save an average of $10/filter (assuming I switch to the Donaldson with the water separator) then it will take roughly 2.5 years to pay back my investment for switching over. Actually, more like two years if you consider that the kit comes with a filter. ROI aside, the Cat has a stated absolute micron rating better than the AC Delco at a cheaper price than the AC Delco.

With that being said, I have emailed Cat and asked for an updated catalog. The one I have, and reference below, is copyright 2001. Even if the new rating is the same as AC...they are still cheaper.

Viewing a thread - Duramax nicktane filter kit

http://www.bmgs.com.tr/doc/GucSistem...el-Filters.pdf
03-17-2016 08:30 PM
mdufficy I wanna see a new AC delco split open. I have a wix currently on there but if it was a delco I would cut it open for you guys
03-17-2016 06:46 PM
John6363 X2 never understood why people run the cat filters.
03-17-2016 06:41 PM
Hook'em_Horns!
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Originally Posted by sgtskid View Post
However, AC Delco fuel filters are expensive in my opinion and I replace it every 10k. I started looking for better/cheaper/comparable filters and comparing micron ratings, efficiency, and cost. I settled on the Nicktane adapter after reading that the ACDelco filter TP3018 is rated at 10micron and the Cat is rated for 2 micron.
This ^^ is so wrong on many levels. With the new ISO testing standards, the Cat is not 2µm filter, old data from years ago. The old number TP3012 was the Racor PFF50216, rated at 4µm absolute (what Bosch desires) @99% efficiency. They are 'bout $32-$35/ea.

The new TP3018 hasn't been out long enough for ANY testing to show up, much less being compared to a lesser Cat filter.

With that $100 adapter allowing you to use a lesser filter, you'd have to drive upwards of 100k miles just to break even on your investment.....just so you can run a cheaper filter, with no water protection, AND lesser particulate filtration.

It's a backward move. You'd be better off puttin' the $$ toward a small LP and quality aux filtration.
03-17-2016 04:17 PM
BigRoller Madjackdiesel.com has them for $106 for 3 right now..not too bad
03-17-2016 04:07 PM
830king I stocked up with racor filters when the dmaxstore was having a sale on them. If I remember they were just under $30 apiece...and I ordered half dozen to keep shipping lower per filter.

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03-17-2016 03:25 PM
mdufficy
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Originally Posted by stanleyrock View Post
You linked an old 2009 thread, when Racor made the Delco TP-3012. Since Delco switched to TP-3018 about a year age it's not clear who makes them. That said, IMO it's best to use the Racor. And no, the TP-3012 was not 10 micron, it was 4 micron, all those rumors came from people who liked to bash the Delco so they could sell more Nicktane adapters.
Ahh good catch about 3012-3018
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