Advice given this tow weight

tedb · 06-02-2007, 04:35 PM

Any suggestions are most welcome...and apologies in advance for the long post...but didn't want to leave anything out.

My basic question for anyone that has experience and is towing on the heavy side are:
- would a Duramax 3500 drw climb the hills without overheating (I'm not looking to set any speed records)?
- would the overweight issue be the deciding factor?

I have a 5th wheel trailer that weighs between 17K and 17.5K lbs (Teton 36 ft). I'm currently towing it with a Volvo tractor and obviously no issues getting up and down the hills.

However, I'd like to move back into a pickup as the wife would like to get in and out easier etc...

I tow it about 5K miles per year. The Chevy appears to have a max 5th wheel tow weight of 16K lbs, the Ford 450 has a max 5th wheel tow weight of 20K lbs. So I'm legal with the Ford, and not with the Chevy. My preference however is with GM....the Ford motor and transmission concern me a bit.

Thanks for any advice,
Ted

Todd E · 06-02-2007, 07:02 PM

That is too much trailer for even the 3500HD. Do not tow while being overweight.

I would recommend either of these, depending upon your price range............

1)Hauler
2)Ford F450

John-Boy 331 · 06-02-2007, 10:33 PM

i live in Fl but i haul about 25k behind my o6 3500 srw reg cab, no overheating, no tranny problems, and good mpg. my friend runs hualing the same equipment behind a new 450 and i can leave him easily plus he gets 6-8 and i get 11-13. my only complaint in my chevy is on the srw you don't get extra overload spring on top but it still handles the load 100x's better my 2500hd with half the weight. anyway you look at it if your worried about dot then stay with a small rig. good luck

Todd E · 06-03-2007, 05:06 AM

There is no attitude in my post.......
No personal attack...........

Why tow overloaded ?

I mean is it this thing about look what my truck will do(ego)? There is nothing safe about it. Manufactors put ratings in place for reasons.

What if one were to be in a wreck because one couldn't get 20k+ stopped while one was "haulin' the mail" down the road ? Let's say one broadsided a wife and her daughter at a redlight and both were killed. Hypothetical......yes, but it happens. Not likely....one is chancing it.

Think about the legal ramifications of towing overweight and getting in an accident.

tedb · 06-03-2007, 09:52 AM

Thanks for the thoughts...and your points are exactly what I've been trying to deal with---Duramax has a solid reputation and can pull the load but being legal is going to be the way to go---

....ToddE...you hit it perfectly.

Thanks,
Ted

**Monster truck** · 06-03-2007, 11:20 AM

I personally think that if you did some brake work to the truck and made sure that the trailer brakes are up to par Id be fine with 17k, Ive pulled 21k with my ctd and it went very well. That was without trailer brakes.

**TYREBOYZ_DEMAXIN** · 06-04-2007, 06:09 AM

i pulled a 1135 Massey tractor with the 140hp perkins turbo diesel here about 3 weeks ago on a 32ft goose neck trailer(i forget the name of the trailer seeing i borrowed it)and with the tractor weighing in at 13k empty and then the tires loaded and with 2 tanks of fuel it weighed roughly 16k and the trailer weighed 5k and my 05 DRW duramax handled it with ease allthough it was a bit scary seeing i couldn't get the trailer brakes to work..so what i'm trying to say is if you would rather run with the legal weight limmit buy a 4500 chevy kodiak with the duramax and the allison tranny and they get better fuel economy then the F-450 PSD but i wouldn't be scared to haul 15k to 30k with the 3500 duallys..

tedb · 06-04-2007, 08:03 AM

Good thoughts. I think one of the things going in my favor is the trailer has 3 axles with electric over hydraulic brakes.....and they apply a great deal of stopping power....so that helps a lot.

Ted

**Monster truck** · 06-04-2007, 09:22 AM

Haveing a tri axe will help alot, be kinda nice if you could figure out a way to borow a 3500 and hitch up and see how you like it. Its hard to ask you buddy if you can use his truck then tell him your going to tow 17k with it lol.

kbcattle · 06-06-2007, 06:55 PM

I pull a 50' wedge trailer with my 3500 drw w/ 3 cars on it all the time. I can pull 19,000lbs of trailer and still be legal as far as I know. What most people don't consider is that when DOT weighs you your 17k trailer may only have 12k-14k on the trailer axles. As long as you have your truck licensed with the right combination weight you will be OK. The Duramax and Allison has no problem pulling this weight on hills and I have never had any problems with the tranny or engine getting even slightly hot. Just make sure you keep your trailer and truck brakes and brake controller in good working condition and drive with a little common sense and you will be fine.