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AU Alum · 02-12-2009, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by High Voltage

Torque Drive is not compatible with DERON VI

Where did you get this information? I've looked all over Amsoil's site and can find nothing stating that Torque Drive is not compatible with Dexron VI. All that I can find is that Amsoil states that all of their fluids are compatible. I'm not saying that you're wrong, but I would love to see where you are getting your information. I'm always willing to learn somehting new.

High Voltage · 02-12-2009, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by AU Alum

Where did you get this information? I've looked all over Amsoil's site and can find nothing stating that Torque Drive is not compatible with Dexron VI. All that I can find is that Amsoil states that all of their fluids are compatible. I'm not saying that you're wrong, but I would love to see where you are getting your information. I'm always willing to learn somehting new.

You can not use Torque drive in a Dexron VI application is what I was saying.

lastcall190 · 02-12-2009, 03:18 PM

Now I'm royally confused... I post something in the morning and don't check till evening and this is what happens I guess

Taken from Amsoil's website:

Product Applications
AMSOIL Torque-Drive™ is recommended as a direct replacement for TranSynd® Synthetic ATF in heavy duty, on and off highway automatic transmissions manufactured by Allison,® General Motors,® Ford,® Voith® and ZF® or wherever the standards TES-295, TES-389, C-4, Dexron® III, Mercon,® Voith G-1363 or ZF® TE-ML 14C are specified. Examples of operations that benefit from using AMSOIL Torque-Drive™ include municipal or transit buses, motor coaches, garbage haulers, motor homes, delivery vans, emergency vehicles, school buses, dump trucks, utility vehicles, cement trucks, line haul trucks and tow trucks.

Where extended drain intervals are not specified by the original equipment manufacturer (OEM), it is recommended that AMSOIL Torque-Drive™ be evaluated with oil analysis at standard OEM drain intervals or more frequently to establish proper drain interval. Where extended drain intervals are recommended by the OEM, follow that recommendation. This includes the recommendations set by Allison® in document #1099F for TES-295 fluids.

So my 2006 LLY is a Dex...3 then? I will look in the manual later but I'm at work right now and can't remember off hand.

-J

**bigdaddydiesel** · 02-12-2009, 03:37 PM

Torque Drive Is Recommended for any and every Allison Application. It was actually specifically designed for the Allison transmission long before the Allison went into these trucks.

Torque-Drive™ Synthetic Automatic Transmission Fluid (ATD)

Recommended for use in applications specifying Allison® TES-295 or C4, DEXRON® III, MERCON®, Voith G-1363, ZF® TE-ML 14C

As for Compatibility, Torque Drive is not interchangeable with other fluids, but the other Universal ATF is...
I was wrong... I checked it out and it IS interchangeable with any other fluid...

Let me know if I can help you with that...

God Bless

Chris

AU Alum · 02-12-2009, 04:36 PM

Now I'm confused.

Is it OK to add Torque Drive to an Allison Transmission that previously had Dexron VI in it without doing a complete flush first? Will there be any problems with the Torque Drive and the small amount of Dexron VI left in the transmission mixing?

I was under the impression that this would be fine, but I hope you can clear this up for me, Chris.

**bigdaddydiesel** · 02-12-2009, 04:49 PM

Yes, Torque Drive IS interchangeable. I had to check to make sure because it did not sound right to me, but I have verified for a fact that Amsoil Torque Drive IS completely Compatible with every other fluid recommended by Allison for the Allison. So to answer your question, yes,, you can get away with only doing the change with the Spin on filter and Torque Drive and you will be fine.

AU Alum · 02-12-2009, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by bigdaddydiesel

Yes, Torque Drive IS interchangeable. I had to check to make sure because it did not sound right to me, but I have verified for a fact that Amsoil Torque Drive IS completely Compatible with every other fluid recommended by Allison for the Allison. So to answer your question, yes,, you can get away with only doing the change with the Spin on filter and Torque Drive and you will be fine.

Thanks. That's what I thought I was reading, but I wanted to make sure after some of the posts I've seen. I appreciate your help.

**bigdaddydiesel** · 02-12-2009, 04:58 PM

No problem at all, yeah, I had to go back and check for myself, I have Amsoil on the brain but I have been fielding so many question in this past week that they are beginning to run together...

Let me know if I can be of any further help to you...

God Bless

Chris

DuramaxSMOKE11 · 02-12-2009, 06:22 PM

so is there any benefit to running dexron VI or III?

**bigdaddydiesel** · 02-12-2009, 06:40 PM

This is just to answer this question.

The Universal ATF is for those owners who feel the need to increase their drain intervals to more than those called for by Allison.

Torque-Drive™ was specifically engineered as relief for the those dealing with the high cost of TranSynd®

Click Here for Lab Comparison of Torque-Drive™ vs TranSynd®

Scroll down to the bottom of the page for the Comparison.

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How does Torque-Drive™ compare to AMSOIL Synthetic Transmission Fluid (ATF)?

Torque-Drive™ was created to satisfy the concerns of customers currently using TranSynd®, and it carries with it the confidence to be used for the intervals established by Allison. AMSOIL ATF is a more advanced product with universal applications such as Mercon V and ATF +4. AMSOILdoes not recommend draining or switching to Torque-Drive™unless the Allison customer intends on following the extended drain interval recommendations of Allison.