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post #31 of 67 (permalink) Old 05-10-2011, 12:21 PM
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I'm glad to hear that its gonna be a pretty stout trans kit. I'm looking to buy either the PPE stage V or the alligator performance stage V kit.
either route you take you wont be disappointed. the main difference between the 2 is PPEs kit comes with a new apply piston and our kit machines down just the metal pressure plate. but if you got anymore questions other than what hasnt already been anwsered above let me know

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Holton I can't get over 1/4 throttle in 5th any more I'm curious to see my clutches. my trucks so damn heavy it weighed 8480 at the scrap yard last week
your C3s sound like there about as black as Wesley Snipes

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i appreciate it! i'm just ready to get this bad boy built and feel the true power i'm trying to lay down!!!

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Lmao I guarantee it I wanted to see how long it would last so far 128k miles but it won't make it through the summer.

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i appreciate it! i'm just ready to get this bad boy built and feel the true power i'm trying to lay down!!!
no worries bud, i can deffently say its a night and day difference

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Lmao I guarantee it I wanted to see how long it would last so far 128k miles but it won't make it through the summer.
thats what happens when youre not nice to things

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either route you take you wont be disappointed. the main difference between the 2 is PPEs kit machines down the apply piston (which ive seen overtime fail) and our kit machines down the metal pressure plate. but if you got anymore questions other than what hasnt already been anwsered above let me know



your C3s sound like there about as black as Wesley Snipes

PPE does not machine down the apply piston. They are custom made new ones and I have yet to see a failure. The top plate in the PPE C3 plate is also machined. I designed this kit.
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PPE does not machine down the apply piston. They are custom made new ones and I have yet to see a failure. The top plate in the PPE C3 plate is also machined. I designed this kit.
that would be a mistake from what Dan told me Mike and i apologize. and i have a pic that i would like you to look at if i can find it here shortly

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PPE does not machine down the apply piston. They are custom made new ones and I have yet to see a failure. The top plate in the PPE C3 plate is also machined. I designed this kit.
Mike is 100% correct!

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that would be a mistake from what Dan told me Mike and i apologize. and i have a pic that i would like you to look at if i can find it here shortly
Holton,
I don’t think I ever told you our apply pistons were machined, They are specifically engineered for this application. Most other kits used machine stock pistons which tend to fail because of the machining on the rubber coasted piston. I might have told you the backing plates are machined.
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So a machined piston is more apt to fail? Are ppes apply piston pretty pricey?

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So a machined piston is more apt to fail? Are ppes apply piston pretty pricey?
that whole thing was miss communication. PPEs apply pistons are cast differently to allow for more clutches and are included already in the stage V kits

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Hey Holton.. What are you guys charging to install these?
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