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Old 03-03-2011, 11:51 PM   eBay Motors  #1 (permalink)
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MPI twins or PPEs new TWIN kit?

Hey guys I have what you see done in the sig. And Already talked to nate about ordering my turbos. Sending the money order in tomorrow. I was looking for one last opinion.
I plan on running the truck as a daily driver, still for our shop demo truck, and towing our 20k trailer (we haul a deuce, and other such things) So towing is a big deal to me.

I want to go with the biggest set I can without sacrificing the towing ability. From what I understand the small kit from nate is the biggest recommended. I was debating if I should go with the 800 kit instead? or if I should order anything for the turbo like billet wheel or such to make it as efficient as possible.

Also I was planning on going with Dippers 45% over nozzles and a ppe duel fueler. At this point.

Does anyone have any immediate recommendations to do? I.E C head gaskets and ARP studs, or I was thinking Ricks cast flows now, or a set of pistons.... I basically have a budget of 9k right now I'm willing to spend. And the truck has 33k miles on it so I want to make sure it will hold up stable as possible for this year atleast.

Coming up before the end of the year I plan on building a spare LMM motor I just bought to put in the truck and doing RDL's cast flow and PPE's up pipes for them to get there bellows.

The truck again Still has to haul a 20k trailer without having to downshift regularly to haul through MD, WV, PA, to fl.

Also PPE I deal with alot and they have made me a pretty good offer on there Twin turbo kit they just started producing and want me to run on mine which is a GT40 and a GT45 with wastegate and all stainless mandrel bent hot tubes and aluminum cold tubes. According to Rick they used the truck they had this installed on to haul one of there trailers to sema at a higher elevation and had no problem. But I understand from a few guys I trust that I should expect longer spool times and higher EGT's. I talked to them right after I did with nate and just makes me wonder if I'm making the right decision so any input would be amazing.

Opinions on which kit will work better?

As well any recommendations between the mahle cast or forged pistons, I've heard alot about the cast being better for daily driven.

The second motor will be built between this year to next to go into a weight reduced 67 C-10 small window stepside (I've got three, one with a LT4 pro charged pushing 1600hp) one 327 fuelie motor, and the third was going to get my ls1 but I figure the best bet would be the the duramax motor in it, with the reduced weight should do great and be alot of fun.

Thanks Guys as always.
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Old 03-04-2011, 12:09 AM   eBay Motors  #2 (permalink)
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Are you dead set on those two brands? I'd personally go with Scotts twin kit from Sdp or trents from epr. I'd also go with mahle pistons and carillo rods, along with a keyed cam. The social stage 1-2 heads doesnt matter, and arp head and main studs, then id do s480 twins with 60% nozzles and twin fuelers, that would be the ultimate set up for me honestly.
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Old 03-04-2011, 12:11 AM   eBay Motors  #3 (permalink)
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Oh and how do you like those sulastics?
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Old 03-04-2011, 12:29 AM   eBay Motors  #4 (permalink)
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Sulastics made a huge difference in ride quality but if you corner hard you'll feel a little sway.

The kits I like mpi for the simple fact, Dipper and nick from Dmax tuner whom I work with quite a bit both really like nathans fit and finish. Ppe I sell alot of product for and they made me a really good deal for the kit and dual fueler. As well there products arnt always made by them like profab makes there exhausts, ace makes there exhaust, spinmaster makes the centrifuge, Cognito makes the braces... But all parts are made with top notch quality just top dollar retail but for what I know we sell there stuff for is very reasonable, so I'm sure most dealers sell there product for a great price. The kit looks nice with the stainless and aluminum tube.

I originally wanted to do a Danville stage 2 with a s488r but from what I've been told the difference in the stock to a cheetah or Danville is nothing really huge overall. Plus going to 480s I was told again that I would have to downshift when towing regularly.
I actually was originally going to go with Scotts kit, after a problem with the egr delete I bought from him leaking at the intake horn so bad it kept ripping gaskets and wouldn't seal. And at first Scott tried to help to get it fixed but wouldn't have a finished fixed version for a few months then I never heard anything so I just bought one from Rick d lance and had no problem. So Scotts kinda has me hesitant for the fact I had to spend a bunch more cash to get my truck running after buying his product. And the other guys you mentioned I never heard of.
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Old 03-04-2011, 01:46 AM   eBay Motors  #5 (permalink)
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I'm running the mpi kit off of Georges truck now. It uses the stock vvt with a Gt45 and tows just fine for me. I also have pics posted of the kit from Joes truck from PPE that was at SEMA with the Gt4094/Gt4508 twin kit in the truck and some of it on the stand.
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Im not sure on prices of mpi or ppe's but I have heard that theirs are way more expensive also. And Trent Nell with extreme prejudice racing is the other I'd go with, except I don't believe he makes them for the lmm. Also he has a triple turbo kit for not too much more than twins. Also I don't believe he has them for the lmm yet either, so just forget I mentioned him!

And I need to add this about mpi, I've noticed that they run consistantly faster than any others with the same tuning..
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i would call scott at sdp top notch quality and service is the best. He is who i bought mine thru
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i would call scott at sdp top notch quality and service is the best. He is who i bought mine thru
He said in a few comments up that Scott wasn't the best to him when he got his egr delete
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He said in a few comments up that Scott wasn't the best to him when he got his egr delete
i remember that, but just giving me opinion

and on a side note when i do my motor build im doing keyed crank and cam, mahle pistons (cast), carillo rods, socal stage 1 heads, main and head studs. and call it a day
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i remember that, but just giving me opinion

and on a side note when i do my motor build im doing keyed crank and cam, mahle pistons (cast), carillo rods, socal stage 1 heads, main and head studs. and call it a day
You think alot like me! My first comment on here basically said that!
Your truck is set up exactly the way I want mine to be. Minus the rims and lowering part, other then that it's everything I want!
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