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post #1 of 8 (permalink) Old 09-22-2019, 06:54 PM Thread Starter
 
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help with lift pump/filter

just got this truck today and it has a lift pump/filter combo on it, but was noticing when i got it home that i didn't hear it running so i done a little bit of testing with the multimeter and found the fuse blown, and the motor/pump is shorted. truck runs and starts fine. I drove it, about two hours home also. I dont know what brand it is, looks like I will have to take it off to possibly figure that out. but hopefully i can order a new pump for it. There is also a cat filter (according to Previous owner) next to the engine.
My questions are two fold.

Will it hurt to run the truck with this lift pump not working? I got work to do!

And the second but dumb question is, how does that cat filter come off? does it just spin off like an oil filter? I just didn't want to break anything without asking someone more knowledgeable than me, which would be pretty much anyone.

Also, i was pretty excited about getting it but the previous owner said something about deleting the egr, and he bought this tuner to do ----something? Its a moonshine by ridge runner performance. looks like they may have went out of business or something, nothing is coming up on them.
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looks like i posted this in wrong forum, sorry. can a mod please move to appropriate forum please.

2003 2500hd new reman bosch injectors, water pump, alternator, ficim, glow plugs, starter, cat 8 micron fuel filter, and lift pump with water sep. 266k
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Hopefully you can find some part numbers on the pump when you get it removed. I don't recognize it myself.

You *should* be able to run the truck without the lift pump, some lift pumps allow pass through where the truck will still run if they fail, others don 't and the truck will stall and not run or be starved.

Just be easy on it, if your getting on the RPM's and it starts sputtering its starving for fuel. If you had an edge monitor or similar you could monitor commanded rail pressure and actual rail pressure to make sure your CP3 is getting the fuel it needs to run smoothly.

I've never personally ran a CAT filter adapter on my filter heads but my understanding is its just a thread adapter that allows the CAT filters to be used, it should just unscrew I would imagine.

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Running a CAT filter on the OEM mount is not usually recommended because they usually don't provide water separation. But one of the filters at the lift pump may be for water separation. Still, I don't think you can beat a Racor coalescing filter on the OEM mount.

Sorry, I don't know anything about your lift pump/filter setup. As above, some allow pass-through (sounds like yours, since you ran it). You might want to fix that up when you can since it may be a little hard on the CP3 pump, and you don't know how long it's been that way.

And, as above, it should just spin off (just turn it the correct way!).

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If the truck is tuned and you don't know what tune or who tuned it Id be VERY careful pulling anything heavy (7000 +). You could hurt yoru transmission very badly.

As far as the Lift Pump, it is probably wired into the fuse box under the hood. Turn the truck on and feel the motor to see if it is running. If it is not you can reroute the fuel lines to bypass it and then remove it for testing.

If you do remove the LP, replace the CAT filter with a factory filter. Easiest and fastest way is to replace the entire fuel filter head and filter. Available at Rock Auto for around $100 or so. This will get you the water separator so important to protecting your diesel form water caused detonation.

Also, this thread has some good info for you:

https://www.duramaxforum.com/forum/m...ew-owners.html

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Thanks all for the info. It sounds like I need to get the factory filter back on it. I already miss my Cummings. I like the way the truck is laid out on the interior but after doing some research appears the engine is way harder to work on than it should be. Think it may be trading time.
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The lift pump looks like an older fass/or airdog. They are definitely harder to work on than a cummins but arent too bad once you get used to them.

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post #8 of 8 (permalink) Old 10-07-2019, 01:48 PM
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I've taken them old lift pump motors to the local starter generator and alternator repair guy and had the motors repaired pretty reasonably and they dont need to know who makes it apparently an electric motor is pretty basic . I have a similar set up on my truck except i have the water separator on my lift pump and yes the CAT will spin off .

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