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post #11 of 42 (permalink) Old 11-11-2019, 09:15 PM Thread Starter
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Why don't you just go to another dealer?
I have not been refused warranty service at 2 different dealers for Banks products on either truck.
Unfortunately been refused warranty work at three different dealerships.

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Riverton Chevrolet Riverton, UT Closest to my house
Riverton Chevrolet Elko, NV Where I had the P127C code

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I don't see this as an emissions issue at all.

Banks brags about the extra horsepower and torque they provide.

GM warranties the horsepower and torque it was shipped with.


I don't understand why anyone expects GM to warranty anyone else's idea of what HP/tq levels are appropriate.
Derringer (or anyone else) should come with a 'replacement' powertrain warranty OR ensure that customers know that they are giving up powertrain protection.
Again ... none of my warranty requests have had anything to do with the Banks system or any components associated with the Banks system.

They simply refused ANY warranty work because this system was installed.

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............neither have I; my local dealer will accept my truck for service so long as the work requested has nothing to do with any relationship to the emission controls.

Again, can you blame individual privately owned businesses for being spooked by the potential costs & penalties? I agree-if you don’t like a private business’s policies....go somewhere else - guaranteed if someone tried to tell me how to run my own business.......well....!

Let’s try and keep a low profile....in my view, our greatest enemy is the borderline psycho cases who do wierd things to their trucks to try and attract attention.

The EPA is going to “rain on our parade”...........just a matter of time. Why make obvious pests of ourselves & thereby speed things up?
As much as I can appreciate the “staying off the radar” ... especially being a Montana transplant ... I think this post may be borderline paranoia regarding the EPA.

I did not and will not delete any emissions equipment on my truck ... so I have no worries about the EPA.

Maybe my local dealers just suck and I need to keep going to others until I find one that will not pester me about the Banks equipment.

To be honest I have a job, wife and kids ... and have exhausted all the time left to give to the local dealers ... so it is easier to remove the Banks equipment until it is off warranty.
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If you think Ford is any better, Think again! When a Ford CP4 dies they will move heaven and earth to find the most minute speck bit of rust in an effort to refuse to warranty a known problem.
Never said Ford was my any better and appreciate the feedback.

Simply said I would buy a Ford before I would end up in another 5 year court battle.

I have been a loyal Chevy guy my whole life ... and their 1/2 ton trucks have served me well.

First time I have ever had these type issues with dealerships.

Makes me wonder if GM has instructed dealerships on how to handle vehicles with aftermarket performance items installed.

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Better pull the lift kit and bigger tires as well. They cause more environmentally detrimental fossil fuel to be consumed thereby lowering the quality of life for the entire planet. Come on fellas! While I'm on the rant, we better not use any cleaner or lubricant on our bicycle chains either!!!!!
Unfortunately I cannot pull the lift kit because the stock height clearances would not clear the dirt berms and trenches at the remote mine sites I cover.

i.e. GM has these trucks with such a rake from the factory and tires so small the front nose can’t even clear a tall curb without scraping.

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Unfortunately been refused warranty work at three different dealerships.

Salt Lake Valley Chevrolet West Valley, UT
Riverton Chevrolet Riverton, UT Closest to my house
Riverton Chevrolet Elko, NV Where I had the P127C code
Sucks....


Sorry to hear... Good luck...

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Unfortunately I cannot pull the lift kit because the stock height clearances would not clear the dirt berms and trenches at the remote mine sites I cover.
Presumably you're not the only one out there.

What does everyone else do?
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Presumably you're not the only one out there.

What does everyone else do?
Approximately 30 heavy duty trucks at the gold mine where I was working today outside Eureka, NV.

Sadly, I was the only GM HD on-site.

I would guesstimate 60% Fords and 40% Dodges ... almost all of them still in stock form ... except for more aggressive tires than that stock garbage.

Fairly obvious that factory ground clearance has removed GM from the buying decision.

However, I did receive several compliments on the looks of my leveled Chevy HD Duramax with 35 inch tires.

Not too many people can truly say they need ground clearance for their job ... but I can thanks to mining ...

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I snapped a picture going into the mine today with the required green strobe and lighted whip while my truck was still clean.

Will try to remember to get a picture of the ditches on the mine site so I can show the required ground clearance.
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Parking ditches ? There are plenty of GM trucks at the mines, Ledcor runs GM trucks. Newmont and Barrick are certainly Ford biased. A lot of it comes down to the dealer they have to deal with.
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