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post #1 of 11 (permalink) Old 06-10-2019, 09:14 PM Thread Starter
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Inner Tie Rods Failing at 10,000 Miles

Noticed a slight rattle in my steering wheel last week.

Confirmed the inner tie rods are failing with only 10,000 miles on my 2019 Chevy Duramax.

Had the mechanic at the local Les Schwab Tire Center confirm my finding ... which he did.

The Les Schwab mechanic then advised me to take it to the local Chevy dealership and have the inner tie rods replaced under warranty ... which I was already planning on doing.

Proceeded to the local Chevy dealer who after inspection determined the inner tie rod problem does not exist ... and then also told me the inner tie rods are within factory design performance specifications.

After arguing with the dealership mechanic and the service manager whether the inner tie rod failure issue actually exists ... I gave up and ordered a superior set of aftermarket tie rods today.

Before leaving I did however point out the cheap factory ball-and-socket inner tie rod design with no grease fitting.

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.... Which brand did you decide to use and your thoughts on the replacement....
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You're leveled, right?

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I am leveled. Raised the front 2.75 inches ... which still leaves a 1/2 inch rake on the truck. Leveling kit included spacers to drop the front differential, which were installed as well. Looking back I should have installed the 2 inch shackle lowering kit in the rear and left the front end alone. Hind site is always 20/20.

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.... Which brand did you decide to use and your thoughts on the replacement....
Went with the Fabtech tie rods. They are massive and heavy. Makes the stock tie rods look like they came off a Chevy Colorado. Installing today and will let you know my thoughts after installation.
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Probably better off upgrading anyway, or you may be replacing them again in 10,000 miles. Keep em greased every oil change. I know some people want to avoid rake like a plague or something, but may be worth considering de cranking a bit if it continues to be an issue. Pay to play kind of deal I suppose.
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what kind of driving do you do to have worn tierod ends? I have a 2019 3500HD 4X4 CC WT with DRW and a big flatbed. I have 14K on it with zero problems. I haul horses, cattle and hay 95% of the time with it over all kinds of terrain and don't have any problems at all with anything on the truck. It is all stock though and I see by your signature info yours has quite a bit of modifications to the suspension/control systems. Maybe that has something to do with it?
I have heard complaints that GM put weak tierods on the trucks, but after all of my trucks never having any problems, I find that hard to believe. Maybe its from bigass fat tires on wide wheels without any thought to correcting the backspacing that does it?? I know that eats the crap out of wheel bearings and A-frame bushings.

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what kind of driving do you do to have worn tierod ends? I have a 2019 3500HD 4X4 CC WT with DRW and a big flatbed. I have 14K on it with zero problems. I haul horses, cattle and hay 95% of the time with it over all kinds of terrain and don't have any problems at all with anything on the truck. It is all stock though and I see by your signature info yours has quite a bit of modifications to the suspension/control systems. Maybe that has something to do with it?
I have heard complaints that GM put weak tierods on the trucks, but after all of my trucks never having any problems, I find that hard to believe. Maybe its from bigass fat tires on wide wheels without any thought to correcting the backspacing that does it?? I know that eats the crap out of wheel bearings and A-frame bushings.
I am still running the stock tire size 265/70/18 (no "big-ass fat tires" you alluded to), aftermarket rims are 18 x 8.5 with a +18 mm offset vs the stock at 18 x 8 with a +44 mm offset ... difference of 1 inch in offset ... which is minimal ... wanted to keep my tires within wheel wells. My truck does however see hard rock mining roads for work on a weekly basis with extremely rough terrain. From the high desert mining roads of northern Nevada to the rocky mountain mining roads of Montana ... and everything in between. Plus I drive my truck harder than most ... or at least that is what I have been told by others. Maybe my truck was built on a Friday ... by disgruntled factory workers ... or I am just unlucky ... who knows. Fact is GM late model trucks have been known for tie rod failures and idler / pitman arm issues ... ask any light duty truck mechanic ... they will confirm. Never had any wheel bearing failures ... knock on wood.

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Probably better off upgrading anyway, or you may be replacing them again in 10,000 miles. Keep em greased every oil change. I know some people want to avoid rake like a plague or something, but may be worth considering de cranking a bit if it continues to be an issue. Pay to play kind of deal I suppose.
Agreed ... I definitely grease all my fittings every 5,000 miles when I perform my own maintenance ... with Mobil 1 synthetic grease. One of the things that did not help was the Tuff Country upper control arm ball joints that failed prematurely (another past issue Tuff Country told everyone they had solved). With the increased upper ball joint movement ... part of that force may have been redistributed to the factory tie rods. So who knows how this may have contributed to the premature failure. Like you said ... pay to play. Still ... the truck rides much better leveled than it did stock ... it now has sufficient room for suspension travel before hitting the bump stops.

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2.75" is a lot for a leveling kit..I thought 2.5" was the maximum "safe" level and even that was pushing it

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