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post #61 of 92 (permalink) Old 06-15-2019, 06:22 PM
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I been pulling new campers out of the factories in Indiana since 2010. I would say for over 500,000 miles now.
I wanna add I had a brand 5th wheel camper go boom, tire split down the sidewall 35 miles from factory.
And it has not been the only new camper that has had tires come apart.
The only reason ST tires have a higher weight rating is because they put 65 mph max speed on the side of that tire.
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Just my 2 cents worth--
I use LT Michelin's on all my trailers and trucks except the Pete. It has Michelins as well but offhand not sure of type.

On my 3 horse which has a GVWR of 16K, I have LT 235/85 R16 XPS RIB. Load range E. Its good for 3042 LBS @ 80 PSI cold.

I have never had any type of failure on any Michelin's on my vehicles. I keep the pressure correct and I don't haul faster than 70 and cruise at 60-65.

On the 8 horse the Michelins are a strange looking radial but looks like a bias. Big, heavy flat tread and carries 110 PSI. But it has a speed rating of 62 max. These have been known to blow when ran for long periods of 70+ MPH.
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Sorry, no hg, gave em all to the democraps

Sorry to hear, I wish you safe travels!

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CONFUSED ABOUT TRAILER TIRES, cont:

Cant thank you guys enough for TRYING to help; just because I disagree with some of you doesn't change the fact any contribution, whether we agree or not, is valuable because it makes us THINK.

Present status - after reading everything I can get my hands on, I am coming to the conclusion that for trailer use ( provided one dosnt need to cruise at much over 60-65) BIAS tires seem to be least likely to fail explosively.

The more people we can get to chime in with their opinions, the better !
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They will still explode or blow out. It’s just that without the steel slinging around they do less damage when they do go. I like the Goodyear 614 g rated for my 4 horse. 10 years on first set.
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[QUOTE, I have LT 235/85 R16 XPS RIB. Load range E. Its good for 3042 LBS @ 80 PSI cold..... and I don't haul faster than 70 and cruise at 60-65. …….These have been known to blow when ran for long periods of 70+ MPH./QUOTE]
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Thank you for your info. on your experience. Dosnt help me - my primary interest now is to learn about the experiences of those who have actually used bias tires in the 16 in range that are legit TRAILER tires. And you discussed RADIAL tires.

As I noted in my previous post, I am now gravitating towards the idea that a BIAS tire is less prone to catastrophic failure.

The 235/85R16 is a truck tire; not a trailer tire...- just that much bigger than what I have, that even if I didn't want to follow industry recommendations, wouldn't fit.

Again, I am reluctant to question the experts who actually make the different types of tires - going to stick to an ST.

I do agree with you as to towing speeds - both my trailers weigh at least 10,000 lbs - and while both are equipped with excellent brakes, I am not interested in finding out what a "panic stop" even at the speeds you and I agree are appropriate, much less faster speeds...!

Again, my primary interest at this point is hearing from those guys who have BIAS trailer tires in the 16" wheel size range towing heavy loads.
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I generally agree with Hook'em's opinion of the ST tire. Yeah, it's "special".

- It doesn't have to have a UTQG rating (for wear, temp, and traction).
- It doesn't have to meet the more stringent requirements of vehicles carrying people.
- I don't know if they still say this (I haven't even seen an ST tire in over 10 years), but "Not for use on a drive wheel" (or something like that). What? These so-called "stronger side-walled tires" can't handle the stresses of a drive wheel? Wait a minute, isn't there just as much stress from braking?

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I generally agree with Hook'em's opinion of the ST tire. Yeah, it's "special".

- It doesn't have to have a UTQG rating (for wear, temp, and traction).
So tell me mr smarty pants, what's the UTQG rating on the tires that come on our $70k trucks?

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I generally agree with Hook'em's opinion of the ST tire. Yeah, it's "special"......!!
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Wow - you guys are convincing me, more and more, that we've got still another major fraud against us consumers.

I have been following the CP4 fuel pump issue ( the charming little device that was not engineered for American diesel fuel ( let's all give thanks to the "bunny huggers" for that fiasco) that, when it fails, will pretty much wipe out our entire fuel system to a cost of around eight or nine grand....!).

As I noted above - thanks to each and every one of you for your posts; really makes one think - and, again as I noted above, makes me think more and more next time I buy tires for heavy load trailering, they will be "BIAS". Hope to see more posts from guys who have done that.
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