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Yes on keep as much weight on the drives as you can , but letting the trailer do what it wants? and it's unlikely you will weigh more than the trailer unless your empty? I guess what I am saying is all the scenarios here don't really jive? Your leaving too much guesswork out there. Not saying your one at all but the dingbats on this forum will be loading up the drives and hauling ass with a empty trailer thinking the ice rink is my friend ??


Tyler and I have discussed this a time or two as I often notice how much more confidently semis trudge through the snow compared to me.
What we’ve came up with is energy will always follow the path of least resistance. If you have more weight on your drivers than you do on the trailer axles (which is more or less impossible for me) cross winds will shove the trailer before they will shove the truck.
Now that doesn’t really aid much in stopping distance but it does help tremendously in keeping the truck going strait down the road or reacting to other obstacles.


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I wonder if Tyler puts a few holes in the front of grain trailers, so the grain helps the drives gain traction? He could fly up and down I 29
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I wonder if Tyler puts a few holes in the front of grain trailers, so the grain helps the drives gain traction? He could fly up and down I 29


Now that’s a solid idea


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Yes on keep as much weight on the drives as you can , but letting the trailer do what it wants? and it's unlikely you will weigh more than the trailer unless your empty? I guess what I am saying is all the scenarios here don't really jive? Your leaving too much guesswork out there. Not saying your one at all but the dingbats on this forum will be loading up the drives and hauling ass with a empty trailer thinking the ice rink is my friend ??
Doing what I do, you don't get to tell the trailer what to do. I run from southern Wisconsin to central North Dakota 2-3 times a week all winter long. The deadhead is sometimes 600 miles of pure hell running empty. The stretch in between Tomah, WI to Hudson, WI and Souix Centre, MN to Fargo, ND are terrible if there's any kind of snowfall. I've spent countless miles on these stretches with the truck and trailer literally crab walking at 60 mph. You eventually just become numb to it since there's nothing you can do. Now coming back loaded, I would rather run my drives at 40k and my trailer tandems at 30k for the simple fact that you don't get the effect of the poopy diaper dragging behind you. At 34k lbs on drives and trailer tires both tandem groups have the same amount of available friction, yet the drivers are supposed to control the PU and maintain road speed. It just doesn't work. Now are you arguing more so for the pick up world? If so, you have to remember a pick up has half the drive tires. So if you have 10k lbs on the drives and 10k lbs on the tandem dual trailer, your drive tires have twice the ground pressure than the trailer.

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You know how often I'd use auto chains if I had them!

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Maybe I just don't get the description of whats up, I am speaking from a lot of semi truck miles but also in a enclosed car hauler and what we haul we have both the truck and trailer in a line uphill / downhill straight or curves , I run the mountains of the Pacific NW an stop /start and turn under control or we don't run, what we haul is not replaceable so perhaps I don't understand, I drive the same in the pickup and 2 car, just the way it's done in this business. Just be careful out there cause I am sure of one thing we agree on: its the idiots around you that will wreck you!!

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Maybe I just don't get the description of whats up, I am speaking from a lot of semi truck miles but also in a enclosed car hauler and what we haul we have both the truck and trailer in a line uphill / downhill straight or curves , I run the mountains of the Pacific NW an stop /start and turn under control or we don't run, what we haul is not replaceable so perhaps I don't understand, I drive the same in the pickup and 2 car, just the way it's done in this business. Just be careful out there cause I am sure of one thing we agree on: its the idiots around you that will wreck you!!
We run in different worlds. My commodity may be replaceable, but if I shut down every time there was a 30 mph crosswind on ice covered roads... I'd probably only haul 2 loads a season. When the interstates close, many of us bomb through 2 foot high snow drifts on the back roads. We're a special breed of stupid for sure, but when I say this truck will be somewhere, I don't let anything change that. Being locked up like this in the photo is all too common.
Your customer might be ok with your load showing up a day or two late... My customer will send my load to the hogs and charge me for it.

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Pulled some soup today, light only scaled 64,000 then some water bottles on the snow. over 45k in the box scaled 77,000
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Pulled some soup today, light only scaled 64,000 then some water bottles on the snow. over 45k in the box scaled 77,000
Out of curiosity... what's the chances this was ohio to western side of Michigan?

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