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post #1 of 37 (permalink) Old 05-28-2019, 09:06 AM Thread Starter
 
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Toy Hauler Towing

Hi All,

I currently own a 2014 2500HD lml w/6.6 Motor. We are looking at a new toy hauler, however i am not sure if I can pull/tow this trailer. Dry Weight 14,440, Hitch Weight 3620, Length 42'. Any help would be appreciated.
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post #2 of 37 (permalink) Old 05-28-2019, 09:47 AM
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Hi All,

I currently own a 2014 2500HD lml w/6.6 Motor. We are looking at a new toy hauler, however i am not sure if I can pull/tow this trailer. Dry Weight 14,440, Hitch Weight 3620, Length 42'. Any help would be appreciated.
1. It will tow it, no doubt.
2. Stopping is more of a concern than actually the ability to tow it, something people don't think of when shopping for larger trailers.
3. Another problem you run into is exceeding GVWR by the time you load the vehicle and trailer up for the weekend; with the hitch weight of 3620 you will exceed the sticker GVWR by the time you bodies in the vehicle and load your bed with misc stuff. This can be offset by upgrading tires and such to help increase towing capacity.

These are just some things off the top of my head for you to take into account. Granted I do not tow a trailer this large, so I will that feedback for those who have.
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Dry weight of 14,400, what axels are under it. Two 7000 lb axels and youíre already over your trailer gvw before you put any thing in it.
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I was also worried about stopping. Have been looking at air suspension upgrades too. Its a rather large rig for my needs but the wife really likes it, so....
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Mikey52 - I wondered the same. both axles are rates for 7K.
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You can do it the truck is capable but if you ever have an accident and get sued you will be in big trouble .
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I would pass on that trailer or get more details. You couldnít even fill it up with ping pong balls and not be overweight.
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Hi All,

I currently own a 2014 2500HD lml w/6.6 Motor. We are looking at a new toy hauler, however i am not sure if I can pull/tow this trailer. Dry Weight 14,440, Hitch Weight 3620, Length 42'. Any help would be appreciated.
Let me put this in perspective for you. I have scaled my rig so these weights are accurate.

My camper weighs 14,500 (triple axle) with everything loaded for camping with both the fresh water and black/gray tanks empty.

Pin weight = 2,750.

Length = 40'

Overall gross weight including full fuel tank ready to go = 22,500.

This is a load for my dually but pulls and stops everything without issue. No way would I ever hook my camper up to a 2500. From my experience, too much can go wrong pulling that amount of weight on a SRW truck.

Can your truck pull the camper? Sure.
Can your truck safely stop the rig in an emergency stop? Maybe.
Can you safely stop the rig with a blow out on one of the truck rears? Doubtful.

All of this having been said, if I were in your shoes, my biggest concern would be the pin weight on a 2500. 3620 lbs is a LOAD. Don't know how you can legally load that much pin weight on a 2500.

Hope this helps.
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I would pass on that trailer or get more details. You couldn’t even fill it up with ping pong balls and not be overweight.
The pin weight takes the weight from the axles. So 14,440-3,620 gives dry weight sitting on axles of 10,820. This leaves 3,180 remaining payload for the trailer. Believe I have this correct. The pin weight is around 20% for most 5th wheels.

I do agree to much for a 2500. I would stay at a pin weight of 2500 and lower. So around a 12,500 gvwr trailer max.
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Before you buy the trailer scale your truck with full fuel and people that go camping with you. Add the drive axle to the pin weight plus the weight of the hitch and any other cargo you carry in the bed. Compare to the load rating of the rear tires and I bet you are over the tire ratings. Safe tire loading is non-negotiable.

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