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2003 LB7 / Allison 1000 transmission service advice?

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#1 ·
Well I've had my '03 LB7 for about 2 years now and clocked about 30K miles to put it just over 200K total. The vast majority of my miles were highway since i have a Prius for my daily driver around town and usually only use the truck for longer trips. I just added a Lance camper and beefed up my rear suspension with Roadactive coil springs over the leaf springs. I'm preparing for a 6,000 mile trip this summer, crossing the continental divide twice so going to be working the tranny quite a bit more than it's ever seen to date.

The prior owner was pretty good about maintenance and mostly took it in to shops so the CarFax record is pretty robust and I was able to contact the shop who did the last tranny service in 2018 only about 40,000 miles ago. Sadly it turns out they put Dexrox VI in it, which was not what I was hoping to learn.

In any event I've already bought an Allison spin on filter and 2 gallons of Castrol Transynd 668, which I couldn't find locally so had to get from Amazon. I was planning to pick up the internal filter & gasket kit at a local NAPA and tackle the job today. But now I'm realizing I probably need to do a more thorough flush to get the old DexVI out of there.

So my question is, what is really necessary to accomplish this and how much more Transynd do I need to purchase? I've read enough threads to realize the target has been moving on this question over the last few years. Is it good enough to just do a dump & fill, drive it a little, then dump and fill again? Or do I really need to pull the cooler return line and dump a gallon or two directly out of the system with the engine running while I put it through the gears?

I've been wrenching for 45 years and always done my own fluids but this is one of those instances where I'm pretty leery of doing more harm than good when I'm just trying to maximize the reliability of my equipment.
 
#2 ·
Wellllllllll, you're probably gonna get a lot of different answers to this question so I'll tell what the x-Allison fluids engineer said and then I'll tell you what I did with my 2002.

The Allison guy said just drain the pan and change the spin-on. Fill with Transend and drive around a bit. Don't remember how far he said but it was maybe 30 minutes to an hour? Then drain pan again and replace the spin-on. He basically said not necessary to drop the pan and change the internal filter. Allison has always said that. From what I hear, the internal filter was a GM thing and Allison said it was completely unnecessary.

This is what I did. I dropped the pan and the internal filter because I know the pan doesn't drain fully using just the plug and that when you drop the internal filter, it also holds a good bit of the old fluid. Then I changed the spin-on and refilled with TES-295 (what they had at the time - I used the Mobil version which you can get from Summit Racing pretty dang cheap compared to everyone else - including Amazon). Then I drove it around for about a month. Rinse and repeat.

Did my way work any better? No clue. But I do know that I got more of the old fluid out that way.

By the time you drain and refill twice, you will use just under 4 gallons if I remember right. I did mine some years back so I'm a little foggy on some of it.
 
#3 · (Edited)
The Allison guy said just drain the pan and change the spin-on. Fill with Transend and drive around a bit. Don't remember how far he said but it was maybe 30 minutes to an hour? Then drain pan again and replace the spin-on. He basically said not necessary to drop the pan and change the internal filter.
Yea........ leaving a 22 year old filter in place, is brilliant advice.
You did right by changing it.

If Woody wants to do some good, he should swap out the shallow pan, and the deep stamped steel pan while he's in there.
1. Drain the OEM pan, swap the external filter (dont lose the magnet) refill.
2. Drive around the block a few times. 15 minutes or so.
3. Drain, swap to the deeper pan and deep style filter.
4. Refill again. Fill to the "Cold Full" when trans is at full temp. Done.

Every 25k, swap the external filter.
Every 50k, drain and refill.
Every 100k, Drop the pan and replace the internal filter and double drain and refill.

The trans will outlive you.....

 
#5 ·
Just did my trans a few days ago. Dropped pan changed internal filter. I would say there is over a quart that remains in the pan and then some when yanking the internal filter. Took somewhere between 9 and 11 quarts to refill. Dont know because I filled it to 3/4 of the way up the hot hash after brake standing to 175F and didnt really care to make a note on how much it took as long is it was the correct level. Used some of the older transynd I had bought a few years ago. Shifts like butter.
 
#6 ·
Yep. Drop pan, change both filters in my sloped driveway and truck on ramps. About 10.5 quarts of fluid. I think I'm getting more out of it because of the angle or maybe it's just wishful thinking. But I do this every 25k miles. Including the transfer case. 296k on the truck. No trans issues to date. Knock on wood....