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I have a 2021 l5p with 15k miles. The truck will not shift in or out of gear. I can move the shifter and the dash will indicate p, r, n d but the truck will not move. I was driving just fine. Came to a complete stop and then put into reverse and drove about 100 yards backwards to my house and when I went to put it back into drive I got nothing. Any thoughts on where I should look first? No codes on dash.
 

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Why? What diagnosis happened......and why isn't it warranty?
 

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I'm with Piper, 2021 with 15k, what cost other than downtime. Everything is under warranty. Unless?? there's been modifications of some kind made that voids the warranty?
 
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Here's another possibility from the manual not knowing your circumstances if your on an incline or not.

pg. 230-231 - torque lock - "If torque lock does occur, you may need to have another vehicle push yours a little uphill to take some of the pressure from the parking pawl in the transmission. You will then be able to pull the shift lever out of
P (Park)."

The same may have happened if you through the trans into park before the truck fully stopped, may have the weight of the truck against the parking pawl. Of course if you did accidentally shift into part before it was stopped something could be broke as well.
 
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The truck is out of warranty. Not sure if added torque is the problem or what. The truck was never brake torqued or really even beaten on so maybe a piece within the trans was weak to begin with. Still trying to get it broken down to see what let go. It does have a 67mm turbo on it.
 

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Why is it out of warranty at only 15k miles and basically 1 model year old?
 
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It has a Steath 67mm turbo, so probably had a few other parts fall off.
How much power were you putting to it? The 10 speed in factory form probably does not hold 650hp for long!
 

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I have a 2021 l5p with 15k miles. The truck will not shift in or out of gear. I can move the shifter and the dash will indicate p, r, n d but the truck will not move. I was driving just fine. Came to a complete stop and then put into reverse and drove about 100 yards backwards to my house and when I went to put it back into drive I got nothing. Any thoughts on where I should look first? No codes on dash.
These are electro hydraulic devices, about all you can do is check the fuses and connectors and also fluid level. After that you will probably need a scanner as not all codes will trigger a light.
 

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It’s not my truck but my guess is it was sitting at 600hp for most of its miles. The truck was not beat on I can assure you of that.
I only have a derringer on my 10 speed L5P, and I run it stock most of the time, I have both 6 speed and 10 with L5Ps in front of them, so have an every day comparison, and, to me, it feels like the 10 speed is not as rugged, very smooth like a car tranny, compared to the 6 which to me seems like a beast! I am afraid of too much power on the 10 speed with the derringer.
My neighbor and I put the 67mm stealth and aftermarket pipes and stuff on his emissions compliant 2019 truck with HP tuners ECM and TCM. I believe that with this setup he was 625whp on tune 5. His 60k mile tranny went in about three months, he also “never abused it”, and I believe the 650hp performance rebuild cost him almost $6000
 

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I think with all the "refinement" GM has done with these trucks they have become very finicky when you do anything outside of stock. The 10 sp Alli is the transmission going forward, and GM would know over the next 5 or 6 model years the power would be going up.....so it must be capable.

There will be those in the aftermarket that will claim the transmission has a weakness and is a time bomb waiting to explode, unless of course you buy their parts to 'fix' it. The older Allison's are amazing transmissions but there were dozens of vendors selling fixes for weaknesses they convinced customers were there.

If you're going to high hp tune, have parts fall off etc, well, then that's on you. The 5,6 and 10 speeds can all fail or need upgrades to handle what you've decide to throw at it.

Since the EPA did what it did, most of the reputable tuners got out of the delete business, and IMO based a lot on what I read on here, the delete tunes now are sketchy as hell and lack the quality of the tunes back in the day from the bigger tuner companies, who did the work to make them safe. As things on the truck get more connected and computer complicated I think the problem only compounds itself as the margin for error is waaay smaller.

Basically, if you're gonna screw with these trucks, don't be shocked when the truck says no way, and parts fail or you send the technology so far out of whack things self destruct. 5 or 6 or 10 speed, GM or Ford or Ram, if you've killed it in 15k that's you.
 

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A personal note on the 10spd, my opinion anyways. I think there's a reason the 24 duramax didn't surpass Ford in HP and torque. It's easier to put more horse and torque out if you don't intend on putting it all to the ground in 1st gear with a locked converter which is the case with dodge and ford. Unlike the GMC/Chev that puts down 100% in 1st with a locked torque converter, think on that a moment and that's a monstrous amount of power going through that drive train and still maintains trans temps around 150ish. At this stage in development since GMC didn't allow the 24 MY duramax's to push more torque than the competition when we know the l5p is capable (bank's proves this) to do so makes me think that for the time being that may be reaching the safe operational limit of the current 10spd and torque converter while maintaining TC lock up in every gear. JMHO
 

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@Arcticcat1991 - Did your friend end up finding the problem/failure point in the trans? I know we've already discussed it was well above stock power but non-the less I'm still curious and hope he has it figured out.
 
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