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AC Delco vs other DEF

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I finally found and just took delivery of a 2023 suburban with a Duramax 3 L. My question is does the brand matter? Everyone at the dealership says that the AC Delco is the only one that doesn’t cause problems, but there are several alternatives everywhere, often with the ISO certification on the box.. Anyone have any experience with using alternate fuels, including some gas stations that have them by the gallon in the pumps next to the diesel pumps. FYI, I’m new to diesel ownership. Thank you.
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DEF is DEF, period. What matters most is that it isn't old. It all has to meet that ISO standard. Someone will chime in with how to read the date codes on the boxes (or do a search for it). I buy mine from the pumps at truck stops....freshest you can get, and the cheapest way to buy it. It's not everyone's cup of tea though (some find truck stops intimidating).

Enjoy your new ride!
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I did extensive Google research and manufacturing data and could not find any expiration dates listed. I finally gave up. I'm not a high mileage user so I just buy from Walmart or local parts house.
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If you have any local truck stops around their DEF is very fresh and considerably cheaper per gallon.
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I buy it by the box. pump def is typical 40 mile one way drive to get it.

I do use a def tester to be sure it's around 32%+-1 or so.

only def I avoid is peak platinum as it's not pure def and has an unnecessary additive package. def has 2 ingredients, distilled water and urea mixed to 32.5% urea.

using non-acdelco fluids will not void warranties or cause issues unless you are using fluids that do not meet gm standards
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There are many many many threads about this subject.
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DEF is DEF, period. What matters most is that it isn't old. It all has to meet that ISO standard. Someone will chime in with how to read the date codes on the boxes (or do a search for it). I buy mine from the pumps at truck stops....freshest you can get, and the cheapest way to buy it. It's not everyone's cup of tea though (some find truck stops intimidating).

Enjoy your new ride!
You used to be able to read the date code on AdBlu but they changed it up and to my knowledge no one knows how to decipher it yet.
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....I do use a def tester to be sure it's around 32%+-1 or so....
Curious Jon, have you ever found any out of whack by more than 1%? The nerd in me wants to get a refractometer and test it occasionally, just for nerd purposes😜..... hopefully get one that does coolant too.
Curious Jon, have you ever found any out of whack by more than 1%? The nerd in me wants to get a refractometer and test it occasionally, just for nerd purposes😜..... hopefully get one that does coolant too.
I put a box of rotella def in that measured 33.6 while in texas. Heat seems to affect the exact reading. It was in the bed of my truck for a week under the cover. I've had it as low as 32 but not lower.

What I'm testing for is way below 30% which means it has been sitting a long time and has started to degrade. I did skip putting in def at a buccees pump in texas last year because it tested at 30%. I do not like buying boxed def in the south as a lot of places store def outside
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Found this on the IRV site. Appears to be an email response from Blu on. how to decipher there date code for 2023.

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As I suspected there isn't a expiration date just a manufacturer date.
As I suspected there isn't a expiration date just a manufacturer date.
def doesn't and has never had an expiration. there is no hard rule on when def is no good anymore.

from my understanding the emissions system has nox sensor that measure nox before def injection and after and it adjusts the ammount of def used based on how much nox is being eliminated. if it is at full injection and nox is not being lowered enough it will throw a code.

the water is used to keep the urea from crystallizing. too high water content not enough nox reduction too high urea and injectors will clog.
urea degrades from uv light and heat the colder it's kept the longer it takes for it to degrade.

so there is no "expiration"

that's why I test all def before I put it in the def tank. 32.5% is what ideal def is supposed to be. do not add water to def do not add urea to def. if the mix is off when tested pour it in a garden some where and get a new box.

personally I will toss a box of def if it's under 31%. I have never seen def over 34%

I typically keep my def tank full and run it nearly empty 2 to 3 times a year usually I use a towing session to do that since it uses a lot of def while towing.

when I buy boxed def I look for boxes in pristine condition with zero damage or fading. thus is a good sign the def was stored out of the sun and fairly new. the date code is no indicator of quality.
def code with a made label of 6 months old could be bad if stored outside in direct light during a texas summer while a 3 year old jug could be good if stored inside in a cool dry back of a store.

date means nothing
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According to the DEF manufacturers and distributers, DEF does have a shelf like -- about 2 years.

Shell says best shelf life when stored between 23F and 86F (-5C to +30C)
Some others recommend slightly different temperature ranges.

From Shell's product brochure:
STORAGE AND HANDLING
All DEF is designed to breakdown at elevated temperatures.
Industry standard requirements specify storage between
23° F (-5° C) to 86° F (30° C) for maximum shelf life.
The box housing the DEF bottle helps prevent exposure to
sunlight and other UV light, also helping to maintain shelf
life. DEF is typically made with a shelf life up to 2 years
from the time of manufacture
. Signs of problems in storage
will include crystals forming in containers, pressurization
of sealed bottles or loss in volume


Another article about DEF storage and shelf life:
Know the Shelf Life of Diesel Exhaust Fluid - Blue Sky Diesel Exhaust Fluid (blueskydefna.com)


OWI (makers of BlueDef) says:
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Found this on the IRV site. Appears to be an email response from Blu on. how to decipher there date code for 2023.

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I took a picture of a Blue DEF box in Costco in Spokane on Feb. 4 this year.

Code was 1003 24 012 6012

Manufacture date by that was January 12, 2023
I would venture a guess that DEF is pretty fresh and this Costco has quick turnover

Mark
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I put a box of rotella def in that measured 33.6 while in texas. Heat seems to affect the exact reading. It was in the bed of my truck for a week under the cover. I've had it as low as 32 but not lower.

What I'm testing for is way below 30% which means it has been sitting a long time and has started to degrade. I did skip putting in def at a buccees pump in texas last year because it tested at 30%. I do not like buying boxed def in the south as a lot of places store def outside
Does your tester match the factory sensor? Idash has DEF concentration & mine is usually between 32 & 33%.
the truck uses an algorithm to predict def percent. during winter the truck thinks my def is 0%
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I have an iDash also and keep DEF concentration on the main screen, I have seen it fluctuate between 28 and 32, all on the same tank of DEF. Last month I was reading 28, went away for a month and came home to find it is now reading 32 with no use or addition, I believe the DEF requirements for my LM2 must be fairly loose since I have never had a DEF issue show up in my truck, knock wood.
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the truck uses an algorithm to predict def percent. during winter the truck thinks my def is 0%
That's interesting, even on the coldest days this winter (not very cold compared to many of you, about 6 degrees F) I was still reading 28-32, I have never seen 33 or higher, and I have never seen below 28.
Never looked at mine in the winter, it's parked.
.... during winter the truck thinks my def is 0%
Frozen at this point? I've never watched mine to notice.
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