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Can’t find much experience online with the BFG A/T KO2 DT (Different Tread for high torque application).

Seems like everyone is scared to try them.

If you have the new DT with the 50k mileage warranty please post here with feedback on how they are doing for you.

I tow a 14,000 pound 5th wheel and I’m looking for a good AT tire that has some life in the tread.

If nothing else, I’ll be the test dummy in a few months and let y’all know how they work...in Texas...no snow


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I heard they made a 2nd version of the KO2 but I haven’t seen them anywhere. Who is selling them?
 

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Rugged Trails are better for trailering. A diesel will tear those KOs apart.
 

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Cooper Discoverer AT3 LT's were installed last week to replace slick Firestone Destination AT with 23k miles. The Coopers seemed to have a lot of good reviews on 3/4 ton trucks with diesels. They have several models with 50k mile warranty.

I got 24K miles on BFG TA KO before that. Not KO2's, but close enough for me not to get KO2's. I really like the look of BFG's. Both sets were probably killed from trailer hauling inflation while running empty between hauling back to next job. The heat down here does not help loaded tires last long.

I have not heard of the DT model, but maybe it will last. I would not trust it in their first model.

A trailer of some type is usually behind me. Usually, the 20 ft enclosed with 2 mowers, about 7500 lbs or the gooseneck with tractor which totals about 10-11k. 6,000 on rear axle w GN. Most driving is close to home in neighborhoods and surface roads in outer suburban areas. Total miles of only 12,400 mi in '18 and 11,600 in '17. Lots of starting and stopping in traffic.

Good luck and let us know what you get.
 

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I know the regular KO2s are not holding up to diesels and towing, but I’m going to try these DTs.
Tire rack and discount tire have them. I believe COSTCO does also. No worries that they lose the snow rating for me, and I don’t expect more than 40K out of a set of truck tires.

I do run low pressure in the back when empty and 80psi when I’m hooked up.

From the tire rack description:
“All-Terrain T/A KO2 tires labeled "DT" utilize a different tread compound designed to improve wear in high-torque applications and improved chip and tear resistance in gravel. Tires featuring this compound carry a 50,000-Mile Treadwear Warranty and are NOT branded with the three-peak mountain snowflake symbol. They can be identified by the "DT" branding on the sidewall immediately following the service description, and are labeled on the Specs page and in search results”


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I have attempted to run early version BFG KO2s twice (first set was replaced under pro-rated warranty with excessive and uneven wear with the supplying tire shop providing alignments), and as you stated they could not hold up. I pull several trailers, including one similar to your avatar and despite BFGs working great on half-tons, their E-range offerings have been horrible. I replaced my second set early and sold them used with full disclosure of my disappointment. So I would be hard pressed to try them again. I am certain my experience reflects reality since they have re-designed them already.

If you are looking for "life in the tread" the proven Toyo and Nitto (RG's) have been so much better and the Nittos are similarly priced.

That said we do need people to invest in experimenting so kudos to you for trying and please update how they work out.
 

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Haha! It is ONLY 1000 bucks
I have to tow the 5th wheel from VA to TX when I move in April. After that it will probably be time...I’ll take a shot with the new 50k warranty, maybe it will take some of the sting out of it if the only last 20k




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Can someone educate me please.....

I would think a harder compound would do better in snow. Apparently I am wrong. Why would a softer tire be better in the snow. My thought would be a harder tire would cut through snow and mud better then a soft tire.

Just curious and looking for some info. Like I said I am apparently wrong but why?
 

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Softer tire for hard surface and hard tire for soft surfaces is in my mind why I would think you would want a harder tires for mud and snow and a softer tire for roads and maybe rock crawling....but I am not a tire expert that’s for sure
 

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You are rearning the way of the tire, Danielsan. You ask good question. Help many others rearn tire way. Much sorcery in making tire. More sorcery in air the tire up and air the tire down. Many mystery of heavy truck tire.
BIG truck, many tires, haul many Toyota, hard compound, rots of air, roong rife across 'murica many times. Air rike spring in tire. Hold tire up. Toyota in rocks, air tire down for rock grippy. Air up for home or tire go boom.

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Sorry, it just came out.

I was in motorcycle and atv sales for 12 years and the sales manager at a John Deere tractor dealership for eight.
Also did several years of SCCA car racing. So knowing tire pressures and what they did for lots of different vehicles was a daily part of life for over 20 years. It was always a discussion with new customers or new equipment. JD had many tire choices when ordering new equipment so I had to know the benefit of a tire and how to set it up for how it would be used. I have had several old customers tell me that I always knew way more specs about my equipment and the competition so they liked buying from me.

Knowing tires and how they behave can make a vehicle drive great or ride like crap. Knowledge is power in getting a tire to get the most out of your vehicle.
 

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Here are some additional details on the DT version of the BFG All-Terrain T/A KO2...

The DT only applies to select heavy-duty LR-E fitments as outlined below. The change is in the rubber compounding to improve longevity and the DT version is back with a 50K mileage warranty as noted.

It's important to note that the DT version does NOT carry the 3PMSF designation, however, the M+S rating is maintained.

LT285/70R17 121R BFG AT T/A KO2 DT
LT285/75R16 126R BFG AT T/A KO2 DT
LT275/65R20 126S BFG AT T/A KO2 DT
LT275/70R18 125R BFG AT T/A KO2 DT
LT285/65R20 127S BFG AT T/A KO2 DT
LT265/75R16 123R BFG AT T/A KO2 DT
 

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Here are some additional details on the DT version of the BFG All-Terrain T/A KO2...



The DT only applies to select heavy-duty LR-E fitments as outlined below. The change is in the rubber compounding to improve longevity and the DT version is back with a 50K mileage warranty as boted.



It's important to note that the DT version does NOT carry the 3PMSF designation, however, the M+S rating is maintained.



LT285/70R17 121R BFG AT T/A KO2 DT

LT285/75R16 126R BFG AT T/A KO2 DT

LT275/65R20 126S BFG AT T/A KO2 DT

LT275/70R18 125R BFG AT T/A KO2 DT

LT285/65R20 127S BFG AT T/A KO2 DT

LT265/75R16 123R BFG AT T/A KO2 DT


Thanks for the additional info.
I’m gonna go for the 275/70/18 on my stock 2016 GMC


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Thanks for the additional info.
I’m gonna go for the 275/70/18 on my stock 2016 GMC


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Happy to help!

Keep us posted as to how they work out for you. As you mentioned, not many reviews out there relating to the DT. I bet a lot of consumers aren't even aware there are two versions.
 

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found the size and thread for my truck.thanks for the info.have to look for the DT rating on the tire.

https://www.4wheelparts.com/p/bf-goodrich-lt285-65r20-tire-all-terrain-t-a-ko2-88846/_/R-BDKZ-88846


That store link you shared wants 344 a tire. Discount and discount price the DTs the Sam as the normal KO2s at 250 each.

You have to dig through all their bfg tires to find the DTs

Here are the 275/70/18s

https://www.discounttiredirect.com/buy-tires/bfgoodrich-all-terrain-t-a-ko2-dt/p/37548


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I ran BFG KO's on 3 trucks over 18 yrs. Great traction. Terrible treadlife.

On my latest 2015, I looked at them again, (KO2) but no retailer would give me any treadwear warranty.

Towing chews up tires so I went with Toyo Open Country. They have a 50k mile treadwear warranty.

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I ran BFG KO's on 3 trucks over 18 yrs. Great traction. Terrible treadlife.

On my latest 2015, I looked at them again, (KO2) but no retailer would give me any treadwear warranty.

Towing chews up tires so I went with Toyo Open Country. They have a 50k mile treadwear warranty.

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That sounds like the standard.

We are talking about the new DT version with the 50k warranty for high torque applications. I.e. diesels


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