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I used to pull with a 1 ton van and needed the trailer anti sway bar hooked up. Pulling with a 1 ton single wheel (with air bags and truck sway bar) will I need the trailer anti sway bar. What are your experiences?
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I wouldn't recommend running air springs on a truck that wasn't designed for them if you are pulling conventional trailers, heavy payloads, or loads with high cg. They ride great but bad for trailer sway and evasive handling.

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How do air bags differ from WD Hitch? Don't they both distribute more weight to the front axel?
How do air bags differ from WD Hitch? Don't they both distribute more weight to the front axel?
False. Air bags put space in the leaf springs to level the truck. They don't give more load carrying capacities, they just offer a way to level a sagging truck from weight and may give a better ride. Weight Transfer bars connect to the frame of the trailer and the hitch which is connected to the Frame of the truck, hence when you crank the chains up you literally are forcing weight onto the front end of the truck and removing weight from the rear using the hitch as a pivot point between to solid frames.

Others on this forum have had wheel slippage issue with the new 2020+ hd trucks because there towing capacity is higher than ever and so is the tongue weight capability, so knowing your tongue weight or checking your rear axle on a scale is handy.

On a separate note this is also why your always loosen your weight transfer bars when you get into a campground that is not level while backing in a sight, watched a Ford Explorer backing into a sight with a curb between the pavement and the gravel, sight was angled also, he left his bars on, popped the frame, couldn't open the doors, it was removed by a flatbed truck and a fellow camper finished spotting his trailer for him. Odd angle, to small a vehicle for the size camper he had, ended badly, sure the salesman told him it was fine.
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So, pulling a 10,000 lb camper with a 3500 srw I should be will under my limits. Do I even need to use the weight distribution bars?
I can't answer that, don't know your tongue weight of your camper. Looking at a 34' cougar camper online with a empty weight of 9600 the tongue is 1006lbs empty. If your 3500 is similar to mine my max hitch weight is 2000 lbs. But I don't know how heavy your trailer is once loaded and ready for a trip. This is what you need to find out.

Either way, the above was just something to think about because you can transfer to much weight off the rear. Personally if I was pulling a bumper pull, I would use a Weight transfer hitch and sway bar. In the event of aggressive reactive driving or sever wind the sway would be a must in my book for the safety of my family. Weight transfer bars, well find out the weight of the nose of the trailer and how the truck drives and that will help you decide that.

I've seen guys pull into the campground before with sways and no weight transfer. You may not need it or you may decide you need a minor amount of it. Guessing your 1 ton van was an older van, prolly don't need to crank on the weight transfer bars like you did back then.

Just food for thought.
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Personally, I'd still use the WDH.
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But with adjustable rear air bags is WD Hitch even needed? Will rear sway bar on my truck help the trailer sway in any way? Thanks
How do air bags differ from WD Hitch? Don't they both distribute more weight to the front axel?
To be clear, a "sway bar" on a car/truck has nothing to do with trailer sway, really. Such bars oppose body roll so the term "sway bar" is a bit of a misnomer. The motion associated with trailer sway is in a plane perpendicular/orthogonal to roll so they're basically unrelated effects.

Air bags just stiffen the rear end. Stiffening the springs doesn't change the moment arm or the load applied to the hitch, and hence can't influence the amount of weight placed on the rear end (and taken off the front end). The only way to do that is by introducing a mechanical moment, which is what a weight distribution system does.
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I use/have airbags on my '07 CCSB and inflate to 35lbs unloaded before hooking up the trailer. The WD hitch transfers weight to the front end so your steering isn't "light" which is caused when all the tongue weight is on the truck hitch, The airbags help support the load and remove a majority of porpoising when driving down the highway. BUT... overinflated airbags make towing worse than no airbags because they disengage the rear overload springs on the truck's rear suspension...
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Just get a 5th wheel,then all that stuff is not required
Just get a 5th wheel,then all that stuff is not required
He could also just stay in a hotel but that's not really in line with the advice requested, is it?

FWs have their own issues; consider the countless threads on this very forum about pin weights, hitches, rails, slider vs auto slider vs fixed, etc. One does not "just get" a fifth wheel camper.
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I used to pull with a 1 ton van and needed the trailer anti sway bar hooked up. Pulling with a 1 ton single wheel (with air bags and truck sway bar) will I need the trailer anti sway bar. What are your experiences?
How long is the trailer and what’s the weight?
How long is the trailer and what’s the weight?
He posted that info for us in a reply. Read down a little ways.
One of the reasons I went with a fifth wheel was that I'd towed enough trailers that I didn't want to deal with sway and didn't want to hassle with a WD hitch. Our kids have a nice, older Nash 22H (about 25' and 5k lbs GVW) and towing with a '15 Tundra TRD Pro. Amazing how that small a trailer can make that truck squat and, towing it through town to a hitch shop =without= the WD hitch installed, I was amazed at how it wanted to wander a bit. This was at 35-45 mph on surface streets. Personally, I'd =always= use a WD / anti-sway hitch on a bumper pull, even with a dually.

Lyle
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So, pulling a 10,000 lb camper with a 3500 srw I should be will under my limits. Do I even need to use the weight distribution bars?
With a TT ideally you have 12- 15 % of the TT's weight on the bumper. Adding 1500lbs to your rear bumper will probably cause a little squat which will cause the front of your truck to lift up a little and effect your steering.
I recommend utilizing weight distribution as well as sway control.
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