If it's an engine issue why replace the truck just swap the engine. Unless they are harvesting the parts to make those 2023 refresh abortion interior trucks.....

 

I am thinking its related to the Def issues many have been reporting and then maybe as parts mules?

 

The def thing may be a issue,trucks have sat since last fall all the way through winter,i would be concerned with the def tank and other functioning parts with within the def system,,,just my thoughts

 

2022 Sierra 3500HD AT4 Needs new engine???

Hello all, any thoughts on what would cause a misfire in cyclinders 3 and 7. Background, bought a new truck drove it for 2 weeks amd 1700 miles. I felt a misfire while driving and hard down shifting between 2 and 1st gear, got a check engine light, emissions warning, low def warning and check...

www.duramaxforum.com

Follow his thread. This is rediculous from gm in my opinion...

 

2022 Sierra 3500HD AT4 Needs new engine???

Hello all, any thoughts on what would cause a misfire in cyclinders 3 and 7. Background, bought a new truck drove it for 2 weeks amd 1700 miles. I felt a misfire while driving and hard down shifting between 2 and 1st gear, got a check engine light, emissions warning, low def warning and check...

www.duramaxforum.com

Follow his article. This is rediculous from gm in my opinion...

I just took delivery of a 2022 3500HDwith this engine. I read somewhere that it is a limited amount of 2022's that are impacted, but that hasn't been confirmed. Took me months to get this truck after ordering only to see this!!!

 

Cheaper for them to scrap em, then spend $20,000 or more each to replace just the engine. Tax write offs and all. This is accountants and lawyers making that decision. And they can't take the parts off and reuse them. But they might get some money back from a good recycler with the right agreement.

 

GM does not scrap all of them, some if not most are donated to high school and college vocational, technical courses for students to learn automotive technology.

 

You guys are quick to post…
Following to see if anyone else finds any info.

 

not finding anything on any GM site. Nothing on NHTSA either. Will piss me off if it’s click bait.

 

It is not clear what the quality issue is.. Until someone has a problem and gets a buy back we can only speculate..

 

I don't imagine they'd pay me 60K for a slightly used 19.

 

That's exactly what I got for my 19 on a trade with 40k miles

 

 

Screen shot from the discussions at the bottom of the article (way down below about 3000 pictures…)

anyone with any knowledge of this?

 

The post-article discussion is rather interesting if you can get past the GM, Ford and Duramax flamers. From the discussion there and resonses here, it sounds like a limited number of vehicles post-December 2021 are involved. My 2500HD was made in August/September 2021, so I'm outside the number range. It runs very nicely and is getting in its groove at 9,000 miles. I'm certainly not going to lose sleep over it, that for sure.

 

MF’r they better not.. I was hoping they had this stuff worked out.. 22 with 2K on it.. waited a long time after ordering last June or July

 

Agree,,I hope they pin pointed date timeframe for issues within the engine build dates at Moraine Ohio Duramax plant, with the on time delivery system to Flint or Oshawa this would make it easier as far as what trucks are impacted because engines would be installed asap,, the engines build date stampings as you said will be very important as long has the can match it to a certain truck vin.I just hope this doesn,t blow up big time, Mine was built first week of Dec,

I ordered a 3500 in Dec. On Fri dealer called and said MY truck with a VIN number will not be sold to me. It will be returned and scrapped.

 

The earliest vin number i heard of as part of the returns was #202941 which was produced Friday Dec 17-2021,he said dealer called him this week after GM gave them the news. The Flint Plant is making 1100 trucks a day on a 6 day week production rate. His truck sat in a storage lot from that date,GM has over 50k trucks parked in Flint alone..... I would think their maybe thousands of trucks impacted by this engine issue.Lets hope not.

 

WOW Im only 600 away from that vin. I have 190 miles on it. This makes me about sick. After a 4 month wait and finally getting it. But Id rather lose it now than have big problems down the road.

 

The earliest vin i have heard of so far is NF 202941 built Dec 17th

 

I ordered a 3500 in Dec. Build date was Feb 7, 2022. Dealer called on Fri 4-17 and said they recalled my truck without me ever seeing it. It is to be scrapped according to dealer.

 

it will be by the engine build date, so they will need to find out what vin fall into that category, it is not just the sequence of vins

 

Agree,,I hope they pin pointed date timeframe for issues within the engine build dates at Moraine Ohio Duramax plant, with the on time delivery system to Flint or Oshawa this would make it easier as far as what trucks are impacted because engines would be installed asap,, the engines build date stampings as you said will be very important as long has the can match it to a certain truck vin.I just hope this doesn,t blow up big time, Mine was built first week of Dec,

 

hopefully my truck isn't one of these. I've got 22k on it so far

 

Mine was built the week of February 15th, 2021 and I'm biting my nails because no way can I buy another truck for what I paid for this one...no way. Mine is running great, so we'll have to wait and see if the buy back is optional or mandatory. It sounds like those affected might have already been notified, or not until the 21st? Heck, I'm just blabbing.

 

Mine's build date was February 9, 2021 and I have had no issues. It does a great job pulling my trailer. NO DEF problems, NO codes, no nothing. I've got to think that this re-purchase program applies to other trucks than mine.

 

mine is a march 21 build 22k miles no real issues

 

Here's my question.... what will they do with all the options we've put on our trucks? I mean really, I've done so much to my truck, added a flatbed camper, etc. What will they do with all the expense? This isn't going to be good.

 

10/21 build here, no way in heaven it's going to be given back.

ETA... how can it be a mandatory buy back, if it's not a safety issue? Truck is paid for. Maybe flag my vin, and not give warranty repairs to it? Just don't see this flying.

 

Maybe they’ll buy mine back for the damn thumping noise, and cold start knock noise. 🍿

 

Tech service bulletin states customer may complain of knocking noise. It also states do not attempt to repair. Dealer says live with that is bs. Shacky idle also they said live with it bs.

 

2022 3500 was built 2/8/22. Has a heck of a thump after it warms up almost sounds like a rod knock but must be something else as it only does it when it;s warm. Traded our 2018 for it, I hope I'm just hearing things. If they do want it back they can have it when they have a replacement for it, waited 5 months for this one.

 

I bet you will get a recall,several different symptoms being reported per my contacts,when the engine head starts warping due to the deffective heat treated casting from the plant in Germany many issues are created,,, this whole issue and how GM is dealing with it is a work project in progress as I type this. Note: the Number 4 posting on this forum AT$ truck has the issues symptoms and I am sure he will get a recall buy back.

 

Duramax engine issue-so far on postings 12-17-21 is the earliest and 2-7-22 is the recent, this is only a 2 truck sample.I got some news today from brother in law GM engineer and some of his circle.It does not look good, The engine blocks are made in Germany then shipped to Moraine Duramax engine plant. The sources say defective castings heat treated process from die lots with in the German factory.The numbers could in the Thousands and GM is working hard to determine a possible window time frame for those defective engines and get the Trucks returned- as many of you may know April 21 st is a release date for defective listings from GM to be given to dealers .My contacts will let me know Monday if a more defined explanation and findings if they find out.. But this sounds like a Huge problem and nightmare for many who have already waited so long for our trucks,,

This was quoted from our Durmax waiting forum thought I'd share it here for what it's worth

 

If the article is accurate, details might be released 4/21. This is from the article:
“The affected vehicles, which have been sold to both retail and fleet customers, will be repurchased by the Detroit-based automaker in an upcoming Dealer Order Submission Process on April 21st.”

 

My crystal ball tells me GM is going to be incredibly secretive and not-at-all transparent on this. The Duramax series trucks is their big-money maker, and something like this could significantly damage their reputation.
I don’t see any dealer or anyone putting any tangible information “in writing” on this.
there will be lots of speculation.
Lots of folks’ “second cousins sister uncle at GM” with information about root cause.
But if the “quality” issue is bad enough for GM to repurchase vehicles and scrap them, you know it’s bad.
It’s going to be an interesting couple months for sure …

 

Here's some more tea leaves to read: https://talk.newagtalk.com/forums/get-attachment.asp?attachmentid=799869&imagerotation=59

 

It's too bad the VIN list that accompanied this letter hasn't leaked out.

 

feel like i'm trying to consolidate some info from the other post that should be here anyway .. Grain of salt

the 2 dates are from 2 people who said their truck was made on those 2 days had their trucks recalled---like i said with thousands of those engine blocks coming from Germany.GM has an investigating team doing field tracking right now,I could not be told if they found out when the first engine blocks were defective or even if they determined when all blocks were good again,,its a waiting game to see if our phones will ring.