[battlegraduate09]

so that thread got off topic quick but Im happy to see MNDiesel and others still appreciate this is America and we have rights regardless. I dont have anything against cops but yes i would call that bullsh*t on excessive smoke if the dodge is rolling it. People can choose to drive a diesel or a moped,a moped is actually alot like ridin a fat chick...it can be lots of fun but you wouldnt want your friends to see. :rockin

 

[duratothemax]

particulate filters are bullchit and everyone from GM to Gale Banks to you and I know it. you can eliminate almost all smoke on a stock/street truck with better built engines/tuning. race trucks aside because of the fuel needed to light a large turbo but still there are trucks that run fairly clean and run damn fast and its not cuz they have a GOOD dpf

oh how little you know about tuning for emissions....

just because you cant see the smoke doesnt mean its clean in the EPA's eyes. Stock LB7's dont smoke, so by your theory they are "clean enough" in the emissions department. But they wouldnt have a chance in hell passing the current 2010 regs.

smoke/particulate is only a small part of the diesel emissions hurdle. The main thing is NOx. Diesels by nature produce HUGE amounts more NOx than gas engines.

 

[Ninja Ninja]

agreeeeeed guess ill eat drink and be merry and hope the sky doesnt turn to fire

now you got it

 

[TANK222]

well my dad is in the lumber business.....so um yeah....I do like trees.

Love it.

Hail to the stinky hippies. :rockin

 

[MNDiesel]

Hippies is an ideology similar to communism, it has nothing to do with the environment and more to do with freedoms. More so, personal freedom. "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety" - Ben Franklin.

 

[Ninja Ninja]

Hippies is an ideology similar to communism, it has nothing to do with the environment and more to do with freedoms. More so, personal freedom. "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety" - Ben Franklin.

so what you're saying is we take them out back, line them up and....

 

[MNDiesel]

You know exactly...........And our brothers to the North suffer from these damn drum circle enthusiasts as much as we do.................

 

[1BADURAMAX]

If you want to blow smoke all over the place, have fun, but don't whine when you get tickets. If it's the law, police enforce it. That's their job. They do not care about hippies wants, needs and beliefs. They care about the public's perception and safety. If you don't like it, too bad. Write your member of government and complain.

Luckily, we all have the right to go to court and argue. Innocent until guilty.

Exactly. If you want to blow smoke, go for it, just don't get pissed cause you got in trouble for breaking a law. Now of course if it was the dodge blowing smoke then you shouldn't have got in trouble, but then you still got the excessive acceleration. You're lucky to have just gotten that and not a careless/reckless driving and you're also lucky to have gotten pulled over then and not after you caught the dodge and possibly raced him. Face that punishment and move on, as for the smoke, if you truly didn't do it, take it to court.

 

[Icbal]

Can you guys read?

Duratothemax- what part of my truck doesn't smoke don't you understand? How is a smoke ticket on a truck that doesn't smoke not bs? Was I complaining about the improper speed ticket? No I wasn't. I could care less about paying for a ticket I did. It's COMPLETE bs to give me a smoke ticket when I didn't smoke.

Yea, diesel exhaust is loaded with nitrous oxide, but is soot nox? Diesels put out nox all the time. Not just when they're blowing smoke.

Anyways it doesn't matter, the smoke ticket was thrown out this morning.

 

[jmaz268]

Honestly every ticket I get is like this.....

For every 1 that I get....I've probably done at least 50 other things I should have gotten one for, and most being far worse.

 

[Emtfireboy76]

Wow posts are awsome well here's my opinion are the enviromentalist gonna put a DPF kit on a volcano which spews more soot carbon dioxide and it's natural OMG all the Diesels and gassers combined can't even equal to one single eruption and yes scientists got caught they lie for tax money bottom line the earth has had both heating and cooling cycles that span thousands of years and the industrial revelution is only 240 years old sold put that in your diesel and smoke it hippies!!! And yes cops have a job even they don't like it sometimes I got a speeding ticket for being a white guy no B/S just bought my truck 20 min earlyier driving got stopped for speed in a city of NO Exceptions told cop I was going 65 he clocked me at 71 never knew speedo off I just bought the truck he fully understood and stated I'd love to give you a break but I don't wanna be in court everyother day explaining why I give whites blacks Hispanics or whatever more warnings than the other and encourage me to call mayor and complain cause he DID NOT want to be here doing traffic he'd rather be fighting crime!!!! And for smoke blowers yes filling a ricer full of smoke while kicking his [email protected]& is fun but the street is not a track my opinion as a Firefighter remember when the inexperiance f up I cut you out so a little rat race ok be smart make sure no one else is around and hey while looking too see if it's safe you might see that lingering squad waiting for you to nail it later guys.

 

[cuse diesel]

OH man I dont know if i should go plant a tree, or burn some tires.

 

[derrplyr]

oh how little you know about tuning for emissions....

just because you cant see the smoke doesnt mean its clean in the EPA's eyes. Stock LB7's dont smoke, so by your theory they are "clean enough" in the emissions department. But they wouldnt have a chance in hell passing the current 2010 regs.

smoke/particulate is only a small part of the diesel emissions hurdle. The main thing is NOx. Diesels by nature produce HUGE amounts more NOx than gas engines.

u miss understood me. what i meant was that the people in charge of the tuning/filter building on the trucks so far have done a bad job thus far.

a filter is going about the problem the completely wrong way
and stock tuning doesnt help

 

[duratothemax]

so what you are saying is the millions of dollars of R&D and hundreds of engineers/programmers at GM Powertrain/electronics/driveability are morons and dont know what they are doing......

 

[derrplyr]

theyre told to make the vehicle cost effective first

 

[duratothemax]

theyre told to make the vehicle cost effective first

ok you totally lost me. SO you are saying that GM puts shitty tunes in these trucks because its CHEAPER than putting a good tune in it? WTF. That is a completely ridiculous statement IMO. I bet KILLERBEE told you that stuff when he sold you your tuning right?

The mfg with the most stock hp gets bragging rights etc... but they are also constrained with X emissions regulations. SO dont you think its in the MFG's best interest to put a lot of money into their tuning so they can eek out the most HP while still staying within the constraints of the emissions regs.

Unbelievable.

ben

 

[derrplyr]

i believe they dont put the BEST tunes in the trucks but obviously not the worst ones.


as far as my tuning goes. i get very decent gas mileage, almost no smoke, and a lot of power. i had 4 ppm out of an allowable 60ppm when i got my truck smog tested last year. so in fact yes my truck runs cleaner now than when it did with stock tuning sir

 

[derrplyr]

dont bash tuners you personally have no experience with