Hook a big trailer on it & check back.

 

Do you have anything useful to post or are you a bored shit disturbper? With a 14, 458 pound totAl weight I’m thinking we’re doing good…

 

You didn't what weight you were at, just say cause mine uses about a gal./250 miles towing.
But my weight is 22K.

 

doubt it. 1 gal every 250 nope

 

On My 2017, I'm not sure about the usage on regular driving, very little at most. I can go months without any indication. All I get is DEF - OK or DEF below 30% but once I hook my 7K travel trailer ill go thru a tank in a month. Like PapaJeep said I like to carry a spare DEF jug while on vacation just can't have it in the box during winter.

 

I also have a 17- usually have to add def fluid every 3rd full tank of fuel - at least 3 times per oil change except towing about 2 ful tanks of fuel. (I only add a jug at a time rather than fill)

 

October 15: 142967 miles - 5 gallons added
December 28: 146231 miles - 5 gallons added

Total miles driven: 3,264
Lifetime fuel economy since July 2020: 13.36mpg
Fuel consumed: 244 gallons
DEF consumed: 5 gallons
DEF/Fuel: 2% of fuel consumption

I fill my DEF when the warning of XXX miles until 65mph warning comes up to try and keep a consistent reference point. I'm using the average fuel economy for the life of my ownership of the truck because that is representative of how I drive the truck. It makes sense in my mind.

 

Before I sold my dually I used to haul a Lance 975. Like you, I added a big wig anti sway bar and generic upper stable loads. The camper fully loaded was around 4,500 lbs. The truck handled that weight easily. I'm debating on what my next truck camping rig setup will look like. Gas vs diesel, srw vs drw, slide vs no slide lol.

Hopefully you'll be able to visit all of those places you listed. I'm ready for things to get back to normal...

 

Not the same truck, but my 15 LML currently has 22k on the clock and all it does is pull our 44' 5th wheel that stands at max height of 13' 6" and loaded weight in around 16k, depends on how the wife packs it. It gets anywhere between 9 and 11 mpg depending on speed and wind. Itll drink 5 gal of DEF every 4500, give or take a few hundred. I do the same, I wait until it says speed limited on next start up, but by then I have 5 gal on hand. This way I know the tank will take all 5 gal and not be overfilled or air burp a bunch of that corrosive shit out the fill tube and all over the place.

 

Just a heads up on the DEF fluid. Last summer I was traveling to southern Idaho and stopped at some gas stations to get DEF. I stopped at four in a row that were sold out of DEF. I finally found some the next day at an auto parts store. I have also found out the ACE Hardware stores carry DEF as well. I guess maybe it was one of those items that had shortages due to the China virus.

 

When I pull my trailer on a trip I carry enough DEF so hopefully I will not need to try and find it on the road.

 

summer time I always have a 4L jug of DEF in the box, just not in winter

 

2018 L5P was checked a couple of times:
6101 miles
5.47 gal def
1115 mpg def

6183 miles
5.44 gal
1135 mpg def

 

With the 7 gallon DEF tank I wait until I hit 30% then put in 2 jugs. Works well for me.

 

Good morning…. Well I got to 2,051 miles and the low DEF light still hasn’t come on; took about 2 jugs to fill the DEF tank as I’m gonna leave on a cross country camping trip…. As a side note the price of Walmart DEF went from $6.97 to $11.38!!! That is a SIGNIFICANT price increase!!!

 

I know it's not as convenient, but try to fill up your DEF at a truck stop from a pump.
Currently about $4/gallon here in NJ.
Yes, DEF is definitely going up. Word on the street is there's a urea shortage. Guess what county makes 40 percent of the world's supply...yea, same place that gave us the virus.

 

Guess what county makes 40 percent of the world's supply...yea, same place that gave us the virus.

Oh really...source??

I'm always interested in better data.

https://www.nationmaster.com/nmx/ranking/urea-fertilizer-production

Top Countries in Urea Fertilizer Production
Metric Tons - 2002 to 2019

510152025All entries per page

#	43 Countries	Metric Tons	Last	YoY	5‑years CAGR
1	Russia	8,172,801.00	2019	+2.6 %	+6.3 %	View data
2	Indonesia	6,835,718.00	2019	+0.5 %	+0.3 %	View data
3	India	5,903,681.79	2018	+24,472.0 %	-23.6 %	View data
4	Pakistan	5,882,816.90	2019	+1.4 %	+3.7 %	View data
5	Iran	5,580,540.00	2019	+4.9 %	+7.0 %	View data
6	United States	4,591,603.24	2019	+3.5 %	+13.9 %	View data
7	Canada	3,970,983.00	2019	+0.7 %	+1.5 %	View data
8	Vietnam	2,346,761.00	2019	+3.6 %	+1.3 %	View data
9	United Arab Emirates	2,289,818.00	2019	+4.7 %	+3.2 %	View data
10	Oman	1,652,539.00	2019	+0.0 %	+2.5 %	View data
11	Poland	1,581,661.00	2019	+2.8 %	+3.9 %	View data
12	Nigeria	1,378,161.00	2019	+7.8 %	+52.0 %	View data
13	Argentina	1,328,107.87	2019	+1.2 %	+7.0 %	View data
14	Algeria	1,259,000.00	2016	+0.0 %	NA	View data
15	Ukraine	1,117,278.00	2019	-12.1 %	-12.3 %	View data
16	Belarus	1,081,442.00	2019	+1.3 %	+1.2 %	View data
17	Brazil	925,134.00	2019	-3.3 %	-3.5 %	View data
18	Venezuela	847,709.80	2019	-2.3 %	-4.4 %	View data
19	Bangladesh	837,436.00	2019	-4.1 %	-0.0 %	View data
20	Kuwait	829,113.00	2019	+0.0 %	+0.1 %

Top Countries in Urea Fertilizer Production
Metric Tons - 2002 to 2019

510152025All entries per page

#	43 Countries	Metric Tons	Last	YoY	5‑years CAGR
21	Lithuania	721,391.00	2019	+2.5 %	+4.6 %	View data
22	Bahrain	711,582.00	2019	+0.7 %	+0.5 %	View data
23	Uzbekistan	624,132.78	2019	+1.3 %	+1.3 %	View data
24	Trinidad and Tobago	550,340.00	2019	-0.8 %	+4.5 %	View data
25	Croatia	455,926.00	2019	+0.8 %	-0.4 %	View data
26	Turkey	409,769.00	2019	+1.2 %	+11.0 %	View data
27	Egypt	403,385.00	2018	-33.3 %	-36.6 %	View data
28	Japan	397,799.00	2019	+0.0 %	+5.5 %	View data
29	Colombia	302,399.00	2019	+0.9 %	+2.3 %	View data
30	Iraq	184,397.00	2019	-1.6 %	+13.4 %	View data
31	Italy	136,532.61	2017	-30.1 %	-5.6 %	View data
32	Mali	91,694.96	2019	+2.0 %	+1.5 %	View data
33	Romania	89,255.00	2018	-36.9 %	-31.3 %	View data
34	Philippines	60,285.00	2016	+0.0 %	+0.0 %	View data
35	Myanmar	58,327.00	2019	-6.3 %	-19.3 %	View data
36	Greece	35,677.00	2019	+3.4 %	-0.6 %	View data
37	Afghanistan	29,558.00	2019	-1.7 %	-1.2 %	View data
38	Serbia	29,395.00	2019	-2.2 %	-1.0 %	View data
39	Portugal	24,561.29	2019	-1.3 %	+31.1 %	View data
40	Qatar	5,440.00	2017	-19.3 %	-74.0 %	View data

Top Countries in Urea Fertilizer Production
Metric Tons - 2002 to 2019

510152025All entries per page

#	43 Countries	Metric Tons	Last	YoY	5‑years CAGR
41	Bulgaria	2,378.00	2019	+6.3 %	+23.7 %	View data
42	Taiwan	15.00	2016	NA	NA	View data
43	Morocco	2.10	2018	-80.4 %	-59.4 %	View data

 

1 gallon jugs or 2.5 gallon jugs or ??

What fuel mileage during this 2051 mile interval.

 

1 gallon jugs or 2.5 gallon jugs or ??

What fuel mileage during this 2051 mile interval.

13.4 average MPG with a fully loaded TC on about 50% of the time; we travel and camp a lot; 2.5 gallon DEF container from Walmart; have to drive about 2hours to get to a bulk station so we do Walmart….

 

@redwngr , hmm, interesting, I guess I stand corrected. I searched for it the other day and my hits came back with China.
I'll look more later.

 

Everyone has gone prep-happy, perhaps with good reason. Wart-mark had only 4 on the shelves and they had dried DEF all over them… the platinum is over $22 and the blue is like $17… and these trucks must have it.

so, prep mode enable…

this seems like a useless place and time to mention.. but I brought up the thoughts of making our own DEF last year… might just happen…

necessity is a mother…

stash and fill up at truck lane when I get fuel.

 

I've found I go through about 1 gallon of DEF / 1k miles.