Sub'd. I am currently only running the Derringer. I'm interested to see the results of this poll. Thanks.

 

From what I've read of reviews, the Derringer's benefit is most felt when on an interstate on-ramp pulling a trailer. Other than that, it's always something like "The truck feels better now". The only numbers I've ever seen come from Banks themselves. They seem legit, but they also have an agenda, obviously.

For me I'm not interested in the Derringer because people are claiming more frequent regens and I already worry about my soot loading due to a short commute. Banks claims the Ram Air kit reduces soot loading, though. I still haven't found anyone who's done a test on that. Maybe that someone should be me. Time to anger the wife and buy some goodies....

 

Yeah it would be nice to gain more peak power etc. but I am actually primarily interested in improved spool and transient, and pedal/throttle response. I am under the impression the Derringer can offer those to some extent. Just curious whether

There are some dynos near me, and I would consider renting a session to see what they do one at a time. It would be expensive though, since ideally I would have to try to conduct all dyno pulls in the same day, installing parts and then doing respective dyno pulls for all 3 situations, possibly at different Derringer settings.

Or if on different days I could just do an additional baseline pull before swapping parts and after. That may be more expensive in the long run though.

 

I think if you were to do that, you'd want the Derringer disengaged for the hardware portions.

 

Exactly. I would dyno just the derringer alone. Those results alone would be helpful to the community. Then disengage derringer, install parts, dynoing each one. Then Dyno each. We have already seen what all three do together, so each one would only be if there was a lot of interest to justify the time and cost of an addition dyno pull with derringer.

 

I for one am interested in a real world dyno of just the Ram Air kit. As I mentioned before, that has more utility to me than a tuner right now. Banks and some customers claim fewer regens with it. That's a big benefit, and a few extra ponies wouldn't hurt either.

 

I have the Banks Ram Air, AFE dual exhaust DPF back, and Derringer, no complaints

 

I am interested in the WC Fab turbo inlet/intake horn and downpipe as well. Seems that the up-pipes are mainly intended to be for reliability? In my turbo 4 banger background most of the intake tract piping mods produce very minimal gains and are hardly worth it except a filter if the OEM is restrictive.

 

I dug a bit deeper than found this

Pretty good data video that apparently nobody watches.
I guess it got buried under all all the "trending content" VLOG guys who blabber about nothing related for 15 minutes before any of the subject content.

I think I'm sold.

 

I dug a bit deeper than found this

Pretty good data video that apparently nobody watches.
I guess it got buried under all all the "trending content" VLOG guys who blabber about nothing related for 15 minutes before any of the subject content.

I think I'm sold.

I'm shocked that he got 23 more HP out of a cold air intake without the added ram air, over an already pretty good stocker.

 

Was really hoping they'd do an intake only run. But that was good independent testing though. Good find!

 

I tried searching and didn't find anything here or in Google in general except one video of a guy with Derringer only pulling away from his wife in a stock L5P.

Has anyone found any hard data on results using ONLY the Banks Derringer on an otherwise stock L5P?
Obviously it makes some improvements but I am curious how much, where, and what.
The general consensus is that aftermarket intakes and DPF exhaust in themselves do not do anything worthwhile on their own, but has anyone found any data supporting whether they will significantly increase the results and benefits of the Derringer?
Would they even significantly change the sound?

I have had the Banks Derringer, Ram Air intake, and DPF-back exhaust (4 inch Cool Cuff) installed for almost 2 years. Finally decided to get my ECM updates and warranty items taken care of about 9 months ago, so I removed everything from my truck for about a month. That is when I truly noticed the power difference thanks to the Banks aftermarket equipment. I also recently added the Banks PedalMonster, which has dramatically improved the truck’s throttle response (best $ mod in my opinion).

However, it should be noted that level 3 (out of 6) on the Derringer is the optimal performance setting to gain power yet avoid excessive regens (in my experience). Same thing happens with the PedalMonster, the more excessively you increase the performance setting, the shorter the interval between regens.

But I do have to admit, sometimes I place the Derringer in performance level 6 and the PedalMonster in Track mode level 10 just to remind me how fast this truck really can be. In fact, I have had several Cummins and Powerstrokes wonder how my truck can take off so fast from a stoplight and yet still continue to pull hard all the way to the governor around 110 mph ... especially with a 4 inch lift, 35 inch tires, and stock 3:73 gears.

 

I tried searching and didn't find anything here or in Google in general except one video of a guy with Derringer only pulling away from his wife in a stock L5P.

Has anyone found any hard data on results using ONLY the Banks Derringer on an otherwise stock L5P?
Obviously it makes some improvements but I am curious how much, where, and what.
The general consensus is that aftermarket intakes and DPF exhaust in themselves do not do anything worthwhile on their own, but has anyone found any data supporting whether they will significantly increase the results and benefits of the Derringer?
Would they even significantly change the sound?

I was happy with the Derringer, and especially the iDash. Peak horsepower gained from the Derringer was similar to what most see on a tow tune with an unlocked ECM and custom tunes. The big difference between custom tuning and the Derringer, is the overall feel during non-WOT driving. Custom tunes feel snappy, whereas the Derringer is much more linear, similar to the factory power curve. I suspect the Banks PedalMonster would change this, but I do not have first hand experience with those.

 

I have the Derringer, x2 Idash, pedal commander, Banks CAI, WC Fab intake horn and a 5" Magnaflow DPF back exhaust tip.

The Derringer/pedal commander/ CAI is a good combo, after adding the intake horn and 5" DPF back I gained nothing.

I currently have PPEI emission intact tuning ordered, that's were the intake horn will benefit me more. If you plan to stick with the derringer you will not gain anything from the horn.

Besides the derringer and CAI the pedal commander/monster is the best addition you can make to the truck. Combines they really wake the truck up.

 

I'm gonna keep an eye on this too.

 

I have been super busy and am finally checking this thread. Meanwhile, I installed a Pedal Commander and it was well worth the money IMO. It feels like the difference between a tuned and stock vehicle, even on a stock truck. Instead of a DPF back exhaust, I hacked off the trumpet and put on a Thoroughbred 90 degree stainless vented exhaust tip just for looks and ensure i don't blast trailers with heat etc. Also a 6" lift, Fox shocks, Sulastic shackles, 35's, but that's OT.

I am still interested in adding the Derringer and possibly intake. I am honestly also surprised people are seeing noticeable results with just intakes. S&B is very attractive...

 

EDITED: I was mistaken, S&B is CARB exempt

 

450HP and 910Ft/lbs only feels fast if the ECU gives it to you.. which its been proven it doesnt ... at least not when YOU ask for it.. the L5P is like an airbus.. its not flown by a pilot its flown by a computer.. the pilot puts in a 'request' and the computer decides if, when, and how you MIGHT get it...
the L5Ps purposely derated to pass govt regs....

banks makes the ECU more agreeable... hehe