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0 to 60 in 3 seconds in a 4x4 truck.

If they can give it a decent range (battery mileage - minimum 500 miles, preferably 750 miles or more), and the suspension to tow my RV, and a fairly quick charging system I can split the 50 amp power pole with my RV at the campground, and the ability to use a generator / solar charging for remote camping, I would begrudgingly get rid of my Duramax.

Here is the link to the 2022 GMC Hummer website ... pre-purchase release is 10/20/2020.


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I predict close to 500 range, half that pulling a decent load and tow rating similar to a 1/2 ton.
 
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Empty payload range vs towing range I bet will be a 60-70% loss. Quick charge will be key, as will being able to split any hookups once you hitch the 5er.

Should include it with solar cells to mount on the roof of anything being towed - won't be huge but should be enough to help out a smidge long term.
 
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It doesn't seem like we're ready for this around my parts. I mean if you're driving it to work and you can plan on charging it at both points, I guess that works. But if you're driving from any point A to point B on the map, how do you plan to recharge it? It certainly wouldn't be like pulling my Dmax up to the fuel pump, refueling in 5 minutes and heading on down the road.

I'm also curious how much current it would draw when you recharge it. Just wondering how much something like this would run up your electric bill at home and how much it would cost for a remote recharge when you do find a recharging station.

But it's cool. That is if they can back up 1/3 of their claims.
 

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Californias electric grid failures... not even able to keep the lights on in the state are a future look into the grid of the nation... its old, not well kept, and barely able to provide service as its stands... let alone absorb the capacity requirement for a countries transportations needs charging cars and trucks for 360 million people.. not including illegals..
 

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I am keeping my Dmax to drive to the ranch. This one is not ready for me to take out there. 1100 miles in a 2 day trip. No charging until the hotel and that will be an extension cord. Also in a snow storm or very cold temps the battery vehicles lose most of their range because of running the inside heater on high to keep the windshield clear for hours at a time and power loss from the batteries themselves. Hell my 2020 has enough trouble keeping the glass clear in a snow storm!

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I am keeping my Dmax to drive to the ranch. This one is not ready for me to take out there. 1100 miles in a 2 day trip. No charging until the hotel and that will be an extension cord. Also in a snow storm or very cold temps the battery vehicles lose most of their range because of running the inside heater on high to keep the windshield clear for hours at a time and power loss from the batteries themselves. Hell my 2020 has enough trouble keeping the glass clear in a snow storm!

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or get it a bit too wet with a small hole in the battery like most teslas seem to have and you light up like a road flare with a fire that nobody on earth can put out... hehe

and since most GM engineers got their degrees on line from some school in dominica.. will likely design the batteries to hang beneath the chassis without protection like the def tank and get punctured in the first 500 miles...
 

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GM did to the Hummer name what they are about to do to Allison... threw it right into the shitter...

Using the bona fides of the military hummer rep labeling grossly underpowered and cheaply built H2 and H3s... was a joke..

now GM is hanging Allison branding on transmissions that have never seen the inside of an office at Allison, and I expect the 'new Allison' 10 speed will be just as reliable as an 4l60p
 

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GM did to the Hummer name what they are about to do to Allison... threw it right into the shitter...

Using the bona fides of the military hummer rep labeling grossly underpowered and cheaply built H2 and H3s... was a joke..

now GM is hanging Allison branding on transmissions that have never seen the inside of an office at Allison, and I expect the 'new Allison' 10 speed will be just as reliable as an 4l60p
The new Allison on my 2020 has 36k and is a dream so far. Best one I have ever had in any vehicle including the German brands as well.
 

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The new Allison on my 2020 has 36k and is a dream so far. Best one I have ever had in any vehicle including the German brands as well.
I hope your experience continues... but GM has turned every decent truck platform of the last 40 years into grocery getters for the suburban housewife... lets hope it doesn't continue to further soften the 3/4 ton product line..

the 'new Blazer' is another travesty ...
 

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I hope your experience continues... but GM has turned every decent truck platform of the last 40 years into grocery getters for the suburban housewife... lets hope it doesn't continue to further soften the 3/4 ton product line..

the 'new Blazer' is another travesty ...
This on a stretch between Carlsbad and Pecos about a month ago. 50 mile average at 65. Empty on the way home to DFW.
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This on a stretch between Carlsbad and Pecos about a month ago. 50 mile average at 65. Empty on the way home to DFW. View attachment 1080843
I think the 'best' on my dict for 50 is 23.4 and I think that was during a lot of 55 and some 65...

my dic and hand calc have been way off... according to DIC I have averaged 18.2 in the 1100ish miles on this 2019 that now has 16xxx on it... but my 2 fillips have been high 16s... hand calc... so not even close

my DIC avg on the last long 70-80mph 30 mile stretch was 20 but there were a couple slow downs..

certainly the additional gears are beneficial.. I just object to calling something that is not Allison .. an Allison...

just like duramax was an Isusu until they made up the duramax name...
 

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certainly the additional gears are beneficial.. I just object to calling something that is not Allison .. an Allison...
The way product development is done jointly now is completely different than just 10 years ago. Technology and the way information can be shared to develop and test real time is different than back in the day. More and more sophisticated modeling programs eliminate unnecessary expenditure of resources. The elephant in the room are financial requirements define the relationships between a manufacturer and a major subcontractor basically how much money for Control of the design and resulting product. You get into intellectual property rights (that means who owns the rights to the design to use it maybe for other purposes or customers) that is beyond complicated just for example. I have spent over a year negotiating those rights in our industry.

Just as an example, both BAE and Northrup Grumman a have major onsite presence at the Lockheed Martin Aeronautics facility in Fort Worth. Have since the award of the Prime Contract for the F35.

The way business is conducted by major manufacturers and the major supplier of systems supporting those products is Extremely Complex. Contractually a nightmare from the onset.:) Times change with technology and progress is made even if we do not like it. :)
 

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The way product development is done jointly now is completely different than just 10 years ago. Technology and the way information can be shared to develop and test real time is different than back in the day. More and more sophisticated modeling programs eliminate unnecessary expenditure of resources. The elephant in the room are financial requirements define the relationships between a manufacturer and a major subcontractor basically how much money for Control of the design and resulting product. You get into intellectual property rights (that means who owns the rights to the design to use it maybe for other purposes or customers) that is beyond complicated just for example. I have spent over a year negotiating those rights in our industry.

Just as an example, both BAE and Northrup Grumman a have major onsite presence at the Lockheed Martin Aeronautics facility in Fort Worth. Have since the award of the Prime Contract for the F35.

The way business is conducted by major manufacturers and the major supplier of systems supporting those products is Extremely Complex. Contractually a nightmare from the onset.:) Times change with technology and progress is made even if we do not like it. :)
I cringe at where we are going in society where something that lasts 1/4 of the amount of time and cost 3x more is considered progress...

like the fact that most college grads these days hold down historically high school or less menial jobs like waiter and barista...
 

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The way product development is done jointly now is completely different than just 10 years ago. Technology and the way information can be shared to develop and test real time is different than back in the day. More and more sophisticated modeling programs eliminate unnecessary expenditure of resources. The elephant in the room are financial requirements define the relationships between a manufacturer and a major subcontractor basically how much money for Control of the design and resulting product. You get into intellectual property rights (that means who owns the rights to the design to use it maybe for other purposes or customers) that is beyond complicated just for example. I have spent over a year negotiating those rights in our industry.

Just as an example, both BAE and Northrup Grumman a have major onsite presence at the Lockheed Martin Aeronautics facility in Fort Worth. Have since the award of the Prime Contract for the F35.

The way business is conducted by major manufacturers and the major supplier of systems supporting those products is Extremely Complex. Contractually a nightmare from the onset.:) Times change with technology and progress is made even if we do not like it. :)
Which is why in technical sales there is a distinction between key account managers and account managers.

Key account managers oversee business transactions at these large accounts where the supply contract is so complicated and time-consuming to manage, yet the sales volume and revenue is so high, it justifies having a single person or a team managing the business process.

But I digress back to the original subject at hand ... the viability of the 2022 all-electric GMC Hummer SUT meeting the needs of Duramax owners.

Due to the high miles we put on daily with heavy loads in tow, it does not appear the new Hummer will meet our needs.

However, never say never, especially with the advancement of battery technology and the ever-increasing air pollution restrictions, the electric vehicle may be the way of the future, like it or not.
 

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Which is why in technical sales there is a distinction between key account managers and account managers.

Key account managers oversee business transactions at these large accounts where the supply contract is so complicated and time-consuming to manage, yet the sales volume and revenue is so high, it justifies having a single person or a team managing the business process.

But I digress back to the original subject at hand ... the viability of the 2022 all-electric GMC Hummer SUT meeting the needs of Duramax owners.

Due to the high miles we put on daily with heavy loads in tow, it does not appear the new Hummer will meet our needs.

However, never say never, especially with the advancement of battery technology and the ever-increasing air pollution restrictions, the electric vehicle may be the way of the future, like it or not.
well if you live in california and are stupid enough to vote for moonbeam and the rest of the low IQ spawn.. electric is your only future.. again, in a state that can't keep the lights on... let alone charge the coming millions of all electric vehicles.. that's provided that the peons making less than 1 million a year will even be allowed to own cars... they will likely mandate that the surfs take public transport

as for the electric hummer doing a crab walk on a beach... have not been on many beaches with a charging station...

but hell.. its a Hummer so Arnie will buy one... and since GM can only live on govt assistance much like Tesla.. I am sure the govt will force the military to buy a billion dollars worth...

just sayin...
 

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However, never say never, especially with the advancement of battery technology and the ever-increasing air pollution restrictions, the electric vehicle may be the way of the future, like it or not.
So electric vehicles are much "cleaner"? Where does the electricity come from? Coal? Nuclear? And don't even get me started on "clean" energy like solar and especially wind. The enormous amount of carbon produced in manufacturing, transporting and installing one wind turbine takes years to overcome and become carbon neutral, if it ever does. Some of the components aren't even produced here because it's so environmentally damaging. It's all one big joke being forced upon us by our communist leaders regardless of whether or not it's beneficial to the environment. It's beneficial to someone, that's for sure, just not normal everyday folks.
 

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Which is why in technical sales there is a distinction between key account managers and account managers.

Key account managers oversee business transactions at these large accounts where the supply contract is so complicated and time-consuming to manage, yet the sales volume and revenue is so high, it justifies having a single person or a team managing the business process.

But I digress back to the original subject at hand ... the viability of the 2022 all-electric GMC Hummer SUT meeting the needs of Duramax owners.

Due to the high miles we put on daily with heavy loads in tow, it does not appear the new Hummer will meet our needs.

However, never say never, especially with the advancement of battery technology and the ever-increasing air pollution restrictions, the electric vehicle may be the way of the future, like it or not.
I digress once again ... the point of this thread was to discuss this viability of the 2022 electric GMC Hummer ... not act like our politicians and go off on some personal opinion rant about the California electrical grid issue ... feel free to start your own thread for that ... just sayin’.
 

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So electric vehicles are much "cleaner"? Where does the electricity come from? Coal? Nuclear? And don't even get me started on "clean" energy like solar and especially wind. The enormous amount of carbon produced in manufacturing, transporting and installing one wind turbine takes years to overcome and become carbon neutral, if it ever does. Some of the components aren't even produced here because it's so environmentally damaging. It's all one big joke being forced upon us by our communist leaders regardless of whether or not it's beneficial to the environment. It's beneficial to someone, that's for sure, just not normal everyday folks.
As much as I am entertained by everyone’s Trump and Biden off-topic rants about the viability of coal vs nuclear vs wind vs solar ... can we kindly keep to the subject of this thread regarding the viability of the 2022 GMC Hummer as a potential tow rig. Feel free to start your own thread on the power grid and how to solve the world energy crisis. Thank you kindly.
 
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I digress once again ... the point of this thread was to discuss this viability of the 2022 electric GMC Hummer ... not act like our politicians and go off on some personal opinion rant about the California electrical grid issue ... feel free to start your own thread for that ... just sayin’.

discus the viability of 2022 electric truck.. ok and I have done that.. NOT VIABLE the current infrastructure can't keep the lights on... and they are going backward by shutting down their most reliable source of bulk electricity in the state by mothballing their nuclear plants and fossil fuel was out long ago...

I am not a politician.. I have a brian, a degree, and a profession.. I solve problems, I dont create them

dont like others opinions.. dont start a thread..

just sayin...

my way or the highway.. now you sound like a politician .. and a socialist one to boot.. which you probably are not... given that you have a diesel truck .. the then again I know a lot of left leaning hypocrites ...
 
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