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Well get used to it because it is only going to expand. Idiots that like to "Roll Coal" are going to be on the endangered species list.

FWIW I used to be one of those complete with propane injection etc.
 

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Looks like this will be my last diesel. I still think the Diesel Bros tv show put the nail in the coffin for us.


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Wade I agree. Diesel brothers put a negative highlight on diesels.
 

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Wonder if this will spread to all tuners? Are we looking at a very near future of no off-road tuning from US tuners?
 

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If ppei was smart they would incorporate some where in the Far East. With a 51% partner. Maybe even Australia. And sell whatever they wanted. It mostly software that can be emailed.
 

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And endure the fines for past [email protected]$35+k per?
It's not like they didn't see it coming, after the surge their way with the last round of top tuners going down.

Smart move, is to step back quietly into calm subterfuge.
Stop advertising....word of mouth ref is cheap. Hence the PM suggestions.
 

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"Our' Prez. marx
 

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Nope, Armus is one of us Northern Cousins that have to put up with a Muzzie loving Libtard Prime Minister that couldn't even remember our provinces name in a couple of his speeches...
October 21, election date will either be a big party or the start of separation negotiations!
 

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Completely agree brother. Justin has damaged our home just as his father did 40 years ago. We got rid of one socialist parasite named Rachel, one more to go.
 

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You can hardly even find full exhaust system for sale now. Everything I see for LMM/LML is "filter back" and for LLY/LBZ is "cat back."
 

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That's why you buy LLY/LBZ exhaust or exhaust sections with 4 bolt flange then aftermarket front pipe with 4 bolt flange if available or leave the cat, going cat back for the LMM + dmax.

All the delete bragging especially in the signatures where its there permanently on every post doesn't help.
I've had several suspicious PM's asking questions on what to do to delete.

Along with the Power Chokes bellowing black smoke, doesn't help the performance diesel enthusiasts either.
End up going north of the border while you can.
 

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Wade I agree. Diesel brothers put a negative highlight on diesels.
Just curious , and I mean this in a completely neutral way . Why do you guys believe this ? Is it just because they drove these trucks on tv? I’ve seen a few episodes and haven’t heard them say a single thing about tuning . And I seriously mean no argument and I’m not defending the show , just curious
 

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Cause they showed trucks driving around "rolling all the coal" . They got hit by the EPA months maybe even a full year before rob did. There has been multiple articles in newspapers and online about their show and none of them were remotely positive at all. Most of the articles used them as examples of the what I call "bro diesel" industry and talked about their smoke bellowing diesels.
 

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Cause they showed trucks driving around "rolling all the coal" . They got hit by the EPA months maybe even a full year before rob did. There has been multiple articles in newspapers and online about their show and none of them were remotely positive at all. Most of the articles used them as examples of the what I call "bro diesel" industry and talked about their smoke bellowing diesels.
Glad I asked , I didn’t see it that way . The way I see it , it’s the tuners that create the smoke tunes fault. They gave the diesel community a bad rep . Is it possible for the tuners to just create better running tunes without deletes ? There has to be a way around the epa
 

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Any amount of smoke will rub someone somewhere the wrong way. Alot of their trucks they built were decent hp builds too and depending on the fuel and air it doesnt matter who's tuning it you will have some smoke until the charger(s) spool. My current trucks around 900 to 1k hp and if it's under boost or dogging the turbo it smokes quite a bit. They just put a big spotlight and target on everyone. Look what happened to rob. He was one of the cleanest tuners and was more focused on emission compliant tuning the last few years.
 

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I blame it on the Dummins, I mean Cummins guy.
They started it all. :howdy
 

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Back in 08 when I got Into diesels it was all the duramax guys that had smoke switches haha.
Theres bro lyfe and douches that drive every brand. They sell white sunglasses and flat Bill's to anyone ;)
 

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So how about Ford and Cummins? Are there companies still making deletes for them? I thought there were some in Canada still


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