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Plugging in Truck in Winter

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#1 ·
With reading here about DEF fluid freezing at 12'F or -6'C, I have to ask; If I plug in my 2022 truck, will this turn on a Block Heater or the DEF Tank Heater?

Also another question, if the DEF Tank heater is not plugged in, does the truck turn it on while I Drive?

Another question of the day, How do the DEF line leading from the tank to Injector defrost? Especially while driving? Seeing they are exposed to the elements, and when you drive you add wind chill to the equation, do these line even defrost?

I see the Injector defrosting and a couple inches of the connecting hose due to the exhaust heat while driving, but the rest of the lines don't. What do the guys in Alaska do? Wrap the lines in plumbing insulation? I would think once I get out of the garage, the lines would instantly freeze in -20 to -40'F.

Ok I will admit these are shower thoughts, but they are still valid questions...
 
#2 ·
Plugging your truck in is a coolant heater or block heater, that is all it does.

Yes the DEF freezes solid. Many thousands if not 100s of thousands of trucks driving around in subzero climates. It seems reasonable that the engineers from all these different manufacturers thought about the fact that the def freezes huh?? There are heaters that thaw the DEF. It knows that it can’t use DEF until it’s thawed. Drive it, don’t worry about it, many, many thousands of these trucks driving around without a single worry given to the DEF freezing and they work great.
 
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As you are driving the truck, the diesel exhaust fluid thaws. Yes it does freeze solid when parked as there is no heater that heats it while the truck is not running. The fluid drains back into the tank when not in use. The heater keeps the lines and tank thawed while the truck is running. I personally have not had any issues with my truck at -25.
 
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The lines are purged every time you shut the truck off so nothing in them to freeze.
 
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If I remember correctly I think to meet emissions requirements the truck has 1 hour to thaw and begin injecting DEF.
 
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#7 ·
Thanks for all the replies. Like I said these where shower thoughts. lol

Maybe its me reading to many of these threads and over thinking things.
Sounds like you might be.

I don't know how long the time interval is, but the programming recognizes 'frozen tank status' and does whatever it does so the truck can be used.

I'm not in a -40 area, but we get lots of nights when its' cold enough to freeze def and usually a week or so when the daytime temps aren't warm enough to thaw def.

Anyway, my LML and L5P trucks lived outside and got started/used every morning. (without block heater)
Never had any cold related issue.
(LM2 lives outside too, but I don't head out every morning like I did when I ran the LML and L5P)

Do make sure you have the 'elevated idle' enabled in the settings.
It will greatly reduce the warmup time for both the engine and transmission.
 
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Old thread, I know, but I may be experiencing this now (Frozen DEF tank that can’t thaw). I’m definitely not using def and the truck stopped regennin. On a road trip north of Fairbanks and just sleeping in the truck the last 3 days (Hasn’t been shut off since I left). Anyway, the warmest I’ve seen is -8F and down to -44F. Next few days the high for the day is -30+. Even with the engine running and driving significant distances, that DEF is gonna freeze and the truck isn’t able to liquify it for use. I got a CEL 12 hours ago or so.. I’m kind of interested to see how this turns out.
 
#11 ·
Nope.
You might have gelled fuel, and block heater doesn't fix that.

Out of curiosity, what year and engine do you have (since it's not in avatar or signature)?

Also, how long did it get warmed up before heading out?
Also, are you in an area that typically gets that cold during winter, and was the fuel in it purchased in that location and during winter?