ull never get cheched noone on here has so that mean u wont dont worry keep on diggin

 

It is illegal. Tax evasion. All diesel in the midwest is ultra low sulfer. I know I check it. I check everything from trucks to the big rigs. I only find it in trucks, big rigs know they are going to be check the occasional pickup thats pulling a trailer or coming into a scale is the ones that run it. It does take multiple tanks to clear it out of your tank.

Yes sample are sent to labs to be tested. There is no court dates with this. If test comes up positive you pay. Either mail check or they take it out of your taxes.

Refusal to allow means guilty fine is the same as if running it. 1250 first offense

 

I was talking to a buddy tuesday as a matter of fact about this same thing. He had a 5.9 that he ran red in for 3 years straight. He would just pull up to the pump and fill up like its all good, lol. Anyway, he never had an encounter.

A little tax evasion is not so bad, the government dont mind taking all of our tax dollars to buy lazy bums and drug dealers food stamps and govt housing, so i dont mind if somebody runs a red tank from time to time.

 

AMEN! Brother!

 

It aint a foul unless the ref calls it. :neener

 

Ok this has gone long enough. Red diesel is NOT FOR ROAD USE! You abuse the easy access to it and it will be long gone before you know it, and those of us that farm, run construction, or anyone else that buys extremely large quantities of off-road diesel that actually see a significant savings due to the absence of road tax will be paying out nose for a necessity. All because of those who are ABUSING the system. You know, like those "lazy bums and drug dealers" on welfare.

 

WOW! Is this guy serious?

 

mother goose has spoken

but, jes aint gonna happen thata way

that old dirt farmer will be buyin cheap fuel till his gran children are old

the bigger problem will be emissions restrictions on aging ag and logging equipment

 

Yeah, this old dirt farmer

Go ahead and keep abusing the system. After all, that's how this country got to where it is today.

 

how would we be abusing the system when we want to be able to buy fuel that doesnt have the road tax on it cuz guess what??!! we dont use the roads!!

the most i have ever put in my duramax of the off road was only a few gallons. cuz i was on empty and needed to be able to get the pump.

 

The government and a world with erodeing morals is how this country got where it is today, not over taxed guys that run red diesel on occasion

 

i have been told the two fuels at most stations are the same with one being dyed an not taxed so dont worry because they will continue to dye some and you will always have your off road diesel as long as there is ulsd

 

Eroding morals? You mean like people believing they are entitled to something and then abuse the access to said power/good? Gee, that argument sure sounds familiar...

 

Did you hear me saying anything about entitlement? No, because i didnt. I have never ran off road, just ulsd with an additive to aid in lubrication for the injectors. I dont want to pay the fines if checked but if others run it then thats their business. Liberals that want to save whales and kill innocent babies, judicial courts that release sex offenders and murders to clear the prisons and laws and liberal views that threaten marriage and the family are what i was refering to as morals, not what diesel you put in your truck

 

what would the world be like when farmers cant afford to plant or harvest their crops. think about all the food we wouldnt have. and if we cant afford the fuel. with the prices of everything that has gone up. farmers cant do jack shit! and the world would have no food.

 

this thread is at loose ends
r we arguin' the morals of the individual here? tax evasion? or just grousin?

or are we talkin about farmers who have enough clout in Washington to get all the tax breaks the rest of us don't get?
so where is the abuse and who is getting abused and what the hell are we really discussin' here

red fuel is illegal fer highway use cause its taxed different'
use it; expose yourself to potential liability
an it won't hurt your older engine at all.
i remember we started with this

 

Exactly, this has gotten way too heated.

Jeff- my argument wasn't against running it in your truck. If you don't run it on the road while your using red fuel then that's perfectly fine.

Sdiesel- you're definitely a coastie if you think that us eastern Washington farmers are being catered to by the state.

Anyway, this has gotten way off topic. Running red diesel will not hurt your truck. When on road switched to ulsd you could still get lsd as offroad diesel. Now alot of places are selling ulsd as both.

 

Well, after the smoke clears. This is the answer to the original question. It wont hurt your truck because its the same fuel with a dye additive. It will hurt your wallet if the law finds out. Other than that, you can fight the moral pissing match all you want. You get caught, you are the only one to blame because you've been well informed. I personally know somebody who's excavating business folded because he went bankrupt. His idiot laborer filled to trucks with equipment fuel just before rolling through a DMV checkpoint. Excess of 20k in fines, suspended CDL, plus impound which was a few g considering trailers where involved. All I can say is use your brain. how you use it is up to you.

 

I think we agree on too much to have a pissin match over this. I was trying to make the point that it doesn't matter what it is, but doing something immoral (in this case tax avoidance if red fuel is used extensively for highway use) hurts society in it's own way. Either way I apologize for getting a little heated and for derailing the thread :drink

Now does anyone know if I can stack my quad, ppe, and my brothers hypertech? :rof

 

i think we found our answer. we are all chev guys for the most part. we should only be against ford, dodge all the those guys in the ricers that want to race us.:drink

no it wont hurt anything and it is illegal.

 

i wouldnt take the risk of blowin up your LBZ. i think that is the best motor gm made. im sure you could kick anybody's ass around there. what you got sounds like plenty to me.

 

Haha I was quoting this thread:

http://www.duramaxforum.com/forum/performance-upgrades/39835-stacked.html?highlight=stacked

Thanks though. Yeah I'm pretty pleased with the LBZ, gonna try and get time to install my Transgo Jr this weekend then I'll be set :rockin

 

im not sure how it is in the rest of the country but here in Boston red is at $2.45/gal while reg hwy diesel is at $2.69/gal. Thats about a $5 savings per fill up..hardly worth any risk of costly fines or Lmm damage. I'm more concerned the EPA cops might notice the black sluge mark right above the exhaust on my white bed due to the lack of DPF . that shit makes a mess

 

Ive been dipped a dozen times or more. Never ran it in the LB7. Used to run home heating oil and dyed from the plant every once in a while when I had the old 7.3. Biiiggg fines especially if your truck is DOT. But that truck spend probably 60% of its life running in the landfills around hte country. And I have had the clerk at the local gas station come over the loudspeaker and call out a guy filling his LLY with dyed....more than once. And I have had to "help" some "not-so-bright-young-ladies-with-daddys-diesel" with NOT putting GAS or DYED into daddys brand new diesels....

good times.