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Replaced DEF tank still having problems.

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#1 ·
2020 2500hd 6.6 originally had the melted harness and melted heater so I replaced the tank which comes with a harness. Had service DEF system and derate again. Dropped tank and found DEF tank harness had pin 12 incorrectly switched with wire. Ordered correct harness for new tank and now have new codes P208A for reductant pump control and P20B9 for heater control 1 back again. Ordered reductant pump module thinking I fried it from getting the wrong harness with the tank previously. Programmed module. Still have P20B9 and P208A and DEF system warning. Has anyone gone through this. Pretty lost at this point. I am going to have to go through the diagnostics all over again. Is there a certain reductant pump or heater fuse? Appreciate any help ahead of time. Thank you-Tony.
 
#3 ·
There was a design change --


DEF Tank Wiring Harness Pinout Change
February 24, 2022
After replacing the wiring harness on the Diesel Exhaust Fluid (DEF) tank on some 2020-2022 Silverado 2500HD/3500HD and Sierra 2500HD/3500HD trucks equipped with the 6.6L Duramax diesel engine (RPO L5P), several DTCs may set. DTCs P20B9 (Reductant Heater 1 Control Circuit) and P20C1 (Reductant Heater 3 Control Circuit) may be caused by a wiring change to the service DEF tanks. (Fig. 5)

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Fig. 5

If these conditions are found, examine the 16-pin wiring harness connector to verify which wiring harness is installed on the vehicle prior to ordering any parts. On the first-design DEF tank harness, pin location 12 will be empty. The second-design DEF tank harness, pin location 12 has a wire in the connector. (Fig. 6)

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Fig. 6

For complete wiring pinout charts for the first-design harness and second-design harness, refer to #PIP5838.
 
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#4 ·
Model years 2020 through early build 2022 were originally built with cavities 6, 12 and 13 unoccupied. After mid-year 2022 (herein known as late build), the pump/sender assembly and the corresponding connector terminals were moved. Terminal 10 was moved to cavity 12 and terminal 11 was moved to cavity 6. All tanks built after that date, including tanks to service the 2020 – early build 2022 are configured this way. If it is necessary to replace the reductant tank in an early build vehicle, it will come with the correct harness already installed and installation would proceed with no special instructions.
 
#7 ·
originally installed the tank with harness it came with but heater 1 and 3 wouldnt come on when turning on heaters with active command. So DEF message came back on dash and check engine light on. So now installed another tank with correct harness. So should I be using the modified harness and maybe the module is shot from the heater burned. Lost at this point. I wish GM would just give you the right parts or issue a recall at this point.
 
#5 ·
Document ID: 5258414
DTC P149F, P208A-P208D, P214E, or P2C11
Diagnostic Instructions
DTC DescriptorDTC P149F
Reductant Pump Resistance Performance
DTC P208A
Reductant Pump Control Circuit
DTC P208B
Reductant Pump Performance
DTC P208C
Reductant Pump Control Circuit Low Voltage
DTC P208D
Reductant Pump Control Circuit High Voltage
DTC P214E
Reductant Pump High Current
DTC P2C11
Reductant Pump Low Current
Diagnostic Fault Information
Circuit​
Short to Ground​
Open/High Resistance​
Short to Voltage​
Signal Performance​
Control A​
P208C​
P208A​
P208D​
—​
Control B​
P208C​
P208A​
P208D​
—​
Control C​
P208C​
P208A​
P208D​
—​
Low Reference​
—​
—​
—​
—​
Circuit/System Description
For an overview of the component/system, refer to: Exhaust Aftertreatment System Description
Circuit​
Description​
Control​
The output circuit varies between ground and 12 V. The motor is bidirectional.​
Low Reference​
Grounded through the control module.​
Conditions for Running the DTCP208A, P208C, P208D, P214E
  • DTC P10F4, P20FF, U010E = Not set
  • Ignition = On or Engine = Running
  • Ignition Voltage = Greater than 11 V
Frequency the DTC runs = Continuously — After the running conditions are met
P149F, P208B, P2C11
  • DTC P10C9, P10CA, P10DA, P10DB, P14FA, P20FF, U010E, U2412, U2626 = Not set
  • DTCs related to the following system/component = Not Set B194 Reductant Pressure Sensor
  • No other DTCs related to the concerned component are set.
  • Ignition = On or Engine = Running
  • Ignition Voltage = Greater than 11 V
Frequency the DTC runs = Continuously — After the running conditions are met — For greater than 63 s
Conditions for Setting the DTC
P149F
Reductant Pump = Resistance Out Of Range
P208A
Control Circuit = Open
P208B
Reductant Pump Speed = Not within a calibrated range
P208C
Control Circuit = Short to Ground
P208D
Control Circuit = Short to Voltage
P214E
Control Circuit = High Current
P2C11
Control Circuit = Low Current
Actions Taken When the DTC Sets
DTCs listed in the DTC Descriptor category = Type A DTC
Warning Message = Service Emission System / Service Exhaust Fluid System
Conditions for Clearing the DTC
DTCs listed in the DTC Descriptor category = Type A DTC
Reference InformationSchematic Reference
Engine Controls Schematics
Connector End View Reference
Master Electrical Component List
Electrical Information Reference
DTC Type Reference
Powertrain Diagnostic Trouble Code (DTC) Type Definitions
Scan Tool Reference
Control Module References
Circuit/System Verification
  1. Ignition » On / Vehicle » In Service Mode
  2. Verify DTC P10C9, P10CA, P10DA, P10DB, P14FA ,P204B, P204C, P204D, P204E, P20FF, U010E, U2412, U2626 is not set.
  3. Operate the vehicle within the Conditions for Running the DTC. You may also operate the vehicle within the conditions that you observed from the Freeze Frame/Failure Records data.
    Verify the DTC does not set.
    • If the DTC sets
      Refer to: Circuit/System Testing
    • If the DTC does not set
  4. All OK.
Circuit/System Testing
  1. Note: It may take up to 2 min for all vehicle systems to power down before an accurate ground or low reference circuit continuity test can be performed.
  2. Ignition/Vehicle & All vehicle systems » Off
  3. Disconnect the electrical connector: A38 Reductant Pump and Sensor Assembly
  4. Test for less than 10 Ω between the test points: Low Reference circuit terminal 14 & Ground
    • If 10 Ω or greater
    1. Disconnect the electrical connector: @ K115 Reductant Control Module
    2. Test for less than 2 Ω between the test points: Low Reference circuit terminal 14 @ Component harness & Terminal 36 @ Control module harness
      • If 2 Ω or greater » Repair the open/high resistance in the circuit.
      • If less than 2 Ω » Replace the component: K115 Reductant Control Module
    • If less than 10 Ω
  5. Disconnect the electrical connector: @ K115 Reductant Control Module
  6. Test for less than 2 Ω between the test points:
    • Control circuit terminal 7 @ Component harness & Terminal 37 @ Control module harness
    • Control circuit terminal 8 @ Component harness & Terminal 24 @ Control module harness
    • Control circuit terminal 16 @ Component harness & Terminal 11 @ Control module harness
    • If greater than 2 Ω
      Repair the open/high resistance in the circuit:
    • If less than 2 Ω
  7. Test for infinite resistance between the test points:
    • Control circuit terminal 7 @ Component harness & Ground
    • Control circuit terminal 8 @ Component harness & Ground
    • Control circuit terminal 16 @ Component harness & Ground
    • If less than infinite resistance
      Repair short to ground on the circuit.
    • If infinite resistance
  8. Ignition » On / Vehicle » In Service Mode
  9. Test for less than 1 V between the test points:
    • Control circuit terminal 7 @ Component harness & Ground
    • Control circuit terminal 8 @ Component harness & Ground
    • Control circuit terminal 16 @ Component harness & Ground
    • If greater than 1 V
      Repair the short to voltage on the circuit:
    • If less than 1 V
  10. Replace the component: A38 Reductant Pump and Sensor Assembly
  11. Operate the vehicle within the Conditions for Running the DTC. You may also operate the vehicle within the conditions that you observed from the Freeze Frame/Failure Records data.
    Verify the DTC does not set.
    • If the DTC sets
      Replace the component: K115 Reductant Control Module
    • If the DTC is not set
  12. All OK.
Repair Instructions
Perform the Diagnostic Repair Verification after completing the repair: Diagnostic Repair Verification
Additional Procedures
Note:
Performing this procedure will clear the Driver Information message for the applicable system.
Perform the scan tool control function: Reductant System Tamper Warning Service Bay Test — Perform only when the following warning message is displayed: Service Emission System / Service Exhaust Fluid System
 
#8 ·
If it's a new tank and harness assembly there is nothing to change.. The harness and tank will be a matched assembly..
Why haven't you taken it to the dealership?. How much time and money do you have into it now?.