lol i realized that after i placed the order for these from grandrock.... oh well... if the paint doesn't hold up ill have them ceramic coated and be done with it... took it for a spin tonight and i can say i like the but they are loud lol... gonna fab up a quick muff connection system that i can take out and put it quickly with a muff delete pipe... that way on long road trips i can put the muff onLooks good Raul. Silverline has those new Black stacks that look pretty bad too.