[deskjet_18]

Hey guys I was wondering what the cheapest would be to rebuild a tranny to support around 500 hp I don't have alot of horsepower but i am slipping it with my chip right now so i might as well do it right. Also how hard is it to install plates and stuff. Im a heavy duty mechanic but never been in a tranny. Let me know the cheapest easiest kit to do and I will go from there thanks

 

[deskjet_18]

bump >>>>>>

 

[dbenenh0]

Hit Tyler up at Meyer Performance. He is hookin me up with my kit next week. Its a transparts stage IV with a ml converter. He has some really good deals goin right now.

 

[gr8shot]

Suncoast has the new Gmax kits out. They've got some new technology. Very good stuff. Everyone that's installed one so far has had nothing but good things to say. I'd highly recommend it.

Let me know if I can help out!

-Jesse

 

[WVRigRat08]

yeah mines fried i gotta run tow/haul in the hills or it stays at2400 rpms all the time.

 

[duramax9878]

Jesse how much hp r they runnin with the new gpack kit

 

[deskjet_18]

How much does that cost? I dont need anything to hold 1000 hp i kinda want to stay as cheap as possible to

 

[deskjet_18]

how hard are these to install

 

[gr8shot]

I haven't done one personally so I can't say, but they're not supposed to be too hard if you've been in an auto tranny before. The pro's have some special tricks that they do to help them hold a little extra though

As for pricing, we've got em here: SunCoast 5PAC GMax Kit, 01-05 Allison 1000 5SPD thats the 5 speed kit,

SunCoast 6PAC GMax Kit, 06-10 Allison 1000 6SPD thats the 6 speed kit

-Jesse

 

[steve06088]

how hard are these to install

I trained on the 1000 and 2000 series in tech school, my record for tear down and reassembly with the tranny allready on a stand was 1hr 45min(not bragging since i was not the fastest, just an example of roughly how simple it is). if you have ever rebuilt a large hydraulic pump than you are good to go, just read all the way through the directions that come with whatever kit you order and follow them to the letter. allisons are some of the easiest and best designed(i can see it now, the mechanic standing next to the engineer slapping him and saying "not gonna work, try it again gomer") trannys to rebuild and once you have done one you will love them. i dont know if you have ever rebuilt an eaton or some form of a twin countershaft tranny but these are about 10X easier. there are some special tools that make it easier but are not necesary just grab a buddy for the re assembly. remember this, when you take out the spring rings(you will see them in the instructions) be carefull not to gouge the case wall or you will get bleed by. also think of this like performing surgery, keep you work area sterille. there are a few areas that if you get dirt in on assembly it wont be able to flush it out when it runs.

 

[deskjet_18]

awesome that doesn't sound bad at all then. I have been in an eaton tranny and i have done big hyd pumps so it sounds like it shouldn't be to bad! Good to hear now i just need the money to get the parts!

 

[FREIGHTTRAIN]

hey the best thing for your tranny is not to but lucas in it or any other pruducts in it will not help. Also pull the dip stick and smell it if it dosent smell burnt you might be able to get away with a convertor, but if it is burnt change the fluid drop the ban clean the valve body out refill and see what that does. If it dosent do anything then start saveing also most tranny shops can build a nice tranny for not to much money if your only going to stay around the 500 mark than u dont need a serious build

 

[gr8shot]

hey the best thing for your tranny is not to but lucas in it or any other pruducts in it will not help. Also pull the dip stick and smell it if it dosent smell burnt you might be able to get away with a convertor, but if it is burnt change the fluid drop the ban clean the valve body out refill and see what that does. If it dosent do anything then start saveing also most tranny shops can build a nice tranny for not to much money if your only going to stay around the 500 mark than u dont need a serious build

this isn't a turbo 350 or something, you can't just cut some corners to get by. When it goes, it's gone. There's no bringing it back from the dead. There's also no cheap way to build one. And putting a converter in won't do anything, since the clutches go bad just like the converter does. The ONLY way to get an allison to hold more power is to build it.

 

[steve06088]

awesome that doesn't sound bad at all then. I have been in an eaton tranny and i have done big hyd pumps so it sounds like it shouldn't be to bad! Good to hear now i just need the money to get the parts!

sound like you are ready to go. have fun. pm me if you have any ?'s

 

[xarcticzonex]

i do alot of roadranger builds and pumps too but autos make me a bit nurvous cause of the valve body and electronics so. im gonna try to get a manual to get a better idea on what im dealing with but i just want to talk to someone who has done there own build

I trained on the 1000 and 2000 series in tech school, my record for tear down and reassembly with the tranny allready on a stand was 1hr 45min(not bragging since i was not the fastest, just an example of roughly how simple it is). if you have ever rebuilt a large hydraulic pump than you are good to go, just read all the way through the directions that come with whatever kit you order and follow them to the letter. allisons are some of the easiest and best designed(i can see it now, the mechanic standing next to the engineer slapping him and saying "not gonna work, try it again gomer") trannys to rebuild and once you have done one you will love them. i dont know if you have ever rebuilt an eaton or some form of a twin countershaft tranny but these are about 10X easier. there are some special tools that make it easier but are not necesary just grab a buddy for the re assembly. remember this, when you take out the spring rings(you will see them in the instructions) be carefull not to gouge the case wall or you will get bleed by. also think of this like performing surgery, keep you work area sterille. there are a few areas that if you get dirt in on assembly it wont be able to flush it out when it runs.

 

[steve06088]

There really isnt alot on an allison as far as electronics are concerned. There is the one main cannon plug that goes to the solenoids and the two shaft speed sensors and the drive selector, and those are all sealed units. And the only thing you would be doing with the valve body as far as most of the rebuild kits go is just remove and replace in which case you just pull about 9-12 bolts and swap the solenoids if the new one didnt come with any and put it back in. If i remember what they told us in school Allison doesnt even want you opening up a valve body unless you are a Allison trained tech, usually if there is a problem diagnosed with the valve bodies you just replace it or send it back to the factory for repair. I know some of the aftermarket build up kits have a shift kit setup but i dont think you have to actually take the valve body apart you just replace a few o rings and springs.

i do alot of roadranger builds and pumps too but autos make me a bit nurvous cause of the valve body and electronics so. im gonna try to get a manual to get a better idea on what im dealing with but i just want to talk to someone who has done there own build

 

[deskjet_18]

thanks alot guys i am just waiting now i am about to make a deal on a house so money is just trying to be saved right now but with in the next month or two i will have that thing ripped apart and being rebuild! cant wait .