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VSE pcv system.

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#1 ·
I personally do not know much about how the pcv system on the l5p works but from watching some vids and watching vse new videos on this kit it seems to me to work like a oil catch system on a gas motor minimizing oil getting into the intake.



The benefits seem clear with a big one just relocating the oil fill to a much easier to get to spot.

I keep my vehicles for a very long time and have experienced plastics failure over time with my 1989 formula 350. So while I'm not worried about the pcv stock system cracking now or even in the next 3 or 4 years but 10 or so... yup it's a concern by then.

In terms of affecting the reliability or cause for concern with cel anyone got any thoughts?? I know it can be done with cheap hoses and clamps but I'm not interested in doing it as a bubbafied ******* style job.
 
#6 ·
I look forward to hearing more about this bypass.

Any issues or negative side affects? I’ve seen some mentioned but looked like shoddy DIY work.


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it's not a bypass it's a replacement design. I went ahead and ordered it because I'm more interested in relocating the oil fill tube as the stock one is in a terrible spot.
 
#8 ·
I will. but it's going to be a while as algores global warming has us at 5-10f most days and I'm not doing truck stuff until it warms a bit.

I can say that the machine work on the parts is exceptional. it is better than I thought it was. extremely solid and very good finish. very impressed.

I've got their fuel filter setup which is very well made as well.
 
#11 ·
I had to slightly drill out the heads of the bolts then use the EZ out to get them to back out. A bit more difficult and involved than it seems from watching VSE’s video but I was successful in getting it done. Just took longer than expected. Only other issue is with the larger than stock Banks boost tubes the filler cap is almost too close to get fingers in between to unscrew. Another thing is the cap that comes with the kit is a screw in style cap and you can not use the original or any variations of the original style cap. I ran the breather tube out the back and down to an external filter rather than back into the turbo horn.

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#13 ·
I disconnected the boost tube at the turbo and shifted it out of the way with out removing the whole drivers side tube. Should be even easier with stock boost tubes. Being that the bottom half of the charge side is flexible if I remember correctly. I used a 90° cordless snap-on drill I borrowed from my mechanic friend. Accidentally drilled through the head of one of the bolts and then used long needle nose pliers to remove the remaining bolt stud after I got the stock unit out. Good idea to have a mechanics magnet handy as it’s hard to reach if anything falls back there.


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#15 ·
On most of mine I just used a hammer and chisel to break them loose. I have the Snap On extractors and it was hit or miss if then worked. But it is so nicer to have this system. Only problem I have had has been VSE non reply to me on the thread pitch of the plug in the housing so I can get the correct size fitting to run for pcv delete. I sent them 3 emails and they have just ignored and not even replied. So much for customer support. Even called them and talked to someone in the technical department and then asked me to send them a email.
 
#16 ·
Interested. Does anyone know how long/mileage the stock system lasts before experiencing some of the mentioned failures? Curious.
 
#18 ·
I decided to order the kit and dump the ccv overboard. I’ll need to purchase a plug for the intake horn nipple. Anyone know the size off hand?
There is a two week lead time on the kit.
 
#23 ·
I decided to order the kit and dump the ccv overboard. I’ll need to purchase a plug for the intake horn nipple. Anyone know the size off hand?
There is a two week lead time on the kit.
Here’s what I used :

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2 x hoses-Amazon
2 x HPS hose connectors-HPS
7 x 1”-1.75” hose clamps-Home Depot
1 x cap HPS/Amazon
1 x barb reducer 1”x7/8”-SupplyHouse.com (plumbing supply)
1 x filter (at hose end)-HPS
Zip-ties-Home Depot

Used the factory 180° return hose to direct the (2) 5’ hoses down and under all the way to the rear axle area so no fumes vent out under the cab of the truck. Smell was noticeable (only while standing outside and idling) until I extended the length w the second hose and also before the VSE kit was installed and there was still positive pressure from the turbo constantly forcing fumes out. The way I have it now it’s not noticeable at all and it’s complete.
 
#19 ·
If I were to add a catch can between the outlet and the intake horn, how much oil do you suppose it would collect between a 5000 mile OCI?
I don’t like the idea of smelling vapors while idling.
 
#20 ·
I do not know but it isn't much. my intake is pretty damn clean at 43k miles. had the intake tube off today trying to install a banks ram air and inspected the intake part of the turbo with a camera. pretty clean over all. the output side is dirty.

so what is getting there isn't much.

the key is not short tripping so the motor burns the moisture off. the ammount of water in the oil in the wife's catch can on her 6.2 gas gmc is pretty alarming to think that could be in the engine and sitting on the intake valves. I'm glad I put it on her truck

the stock ccv is way better than nothing and i would say close to aftermarket catch cans but it's dumping back into the motor not into the intake like a gas motor does. the stock ccv is pressurized by the turbo outlet and the vse eliminates that extra unnecessary pressure so the vse oil return will work better than stock. so if you route the vse output to the turbo intake horn it shouldn't matter at all.

once I manage to get it installed I'll re-inspect after 10k miles and see what it's doing.
 
#21 ·
I do not know but it isn't much. my intake is pretty damn clean at 43k miles. had the intake tube off today trying to install a banks ram air and inspected the intake part of the turbo with a camera. pretty clean over all. the output side is dirty.

so what is getting there isn't much.

the key is not short tripping so the motor burns the moisture off. the ammount of water in the oil in the wife's catch can on her 6.2 gas gmc is pretty alarming to think that could be in the engine and sitting on the intake valves. I'm glad I put it on her truck

the stock ccv is way better than nothing and i would say close to aftermarket catch cans but it's dumping back into the motor not into the intake like a gas motor does. the stock ccv is pressurized by the turbo outlet and the vse eliminates that extra unnecessary pressure so the vse oil return will work better than stock. so if you route the vse output to the turbo intake horn it shouldn't matter at all.

once I manage to get it installed I'll re-inspect after 10k miles and see what it's doing.
Thanks for your thoughts and input.
I was also wondering how well the VSE works at separating the oil from the vapor. just a series of holes, not quite seeing how well the oil will fall out with the CC pressure behind it.
We’ll see in about a month after I get the system.
 
#24 ·

great how to here including best way to remove the one way bolts. don't buy the vse extractor it doesn't work.

I installed my kit today super easy with the irwin 1/2" external extractor
 
#25 ·

great how to here including best way to remove the one way bolts. don't buy the vse extractor it doesn't work.

I installed my kit today super easy with the irwin 1/2" external extractor
What was the issue with the extractor?
 
#26 ·
the one vse recommends is too large to get a grip on the screw head so you would have to drill it out some. they are not in tight at all so an external extract works a lot better and much easier

you can easily drill 3 of the 4. number 4 sits under the turbo port so you can only hit it from an angle

I wanted to not get stuck so I kept trying to get the one under the turbo first.

one other thing... this is critical. the vse bolts are stainless steel and cannot be picked up with a magnet. DO NOT DROP ONE. DO NOT DROP ONE INTO THE ENGINE. DO NOT DROP ONE IN THE TURBO PIPES OR INLET. you will not be able to retrieve with a magnet
 
#27 ·
Thank you, really appreciate the information. Looking fwd to receiving in a couple weeks.
 
#28 · (Edited)
be sure to read jd4320's thread I linked above

I keep thinking of things.... I used a magnet to remove the one way bolts once they were completely loose. then held the oem ccv down while I air blasted any metal shavings or dirt away with compressed air. I put rugs like JD did to keep sht out of the tube while I air blasted.

there is one wire bundle attached via a wire holder I used channel locks to remove. when I put the oil fill on I put that loose bundle on the front toward the grill instead of putting the fill in between the bundles. I did that to keep it away from the boost pipe