You might try the revo 3's Bridgestone. That's what I run on my Yukon. It towed a 4 horse bumper pull really good. Quiet on the road and good in the sand. Not as good in sand as the revo 2's but quieter on the road. About 12,000 lbs. mileage sucked though.

 

Nick, have you thought about a separate winter tire and run something more geared toward highway for summer?

Personally like my Cooper AT3s and my camper is heavier than yours. Running them at 80psi as well.

 

Considering that I now have to buy ANOTHER set of tires for this thing, that’s more than likely what will happen Ryan. I’m not happy about it because if I was going to run a designated winter tire (like I do on my work car in the winter) I would run a set of Blizzaks or something like that. An ACTUAL snow/ice tire. Towing my enclosed sled trailer can get dicey on winter roads so I need the good traction. I was hoping to just have one set of tires/wheels for this thing for now, until I put a small lift in it, sometime down the road a ways.

One thing to remember is that 265's have a minimum wheel width of 7". My 2008 CCLB 3/4 ton came with 6 1/2" wheels and I switched to the larger 1 ton stock steel wheels since running the 265's. The 6 1/2" wheel makes the tread more rounded, maybe even less road contact vs 7".

GMT-800 3500 SRW were available with the 6.5” aluminums that I have and while I agree that they might slightly wear better on a 7”+ wheel, I don’t think these BFGs would tow/haul that much better.

 

cooper at3 you will love them

 

I had the same happen to me. Went from Michelin to BFG. Terrible tread squirm. Back to Michelin, no more problems. 18k GCVW.

I was very underwhelmed with the BFGs. Great for breaking snow trail greater than 12” and deep slush in the spring. I suspect the BFGs would also be superior off road but I don’t do that. Other than that, the plain looking, skinny 245s Michelin M/S is much better in nearly every condition.

 

In my experience you're going to get that squishy feeling with just about any A/T. They'll be pretty decent for a little offroad and nasty conditions but to get that good highway handling you're looking for when towing a load, you won't beat a good H/T. I've ran Bridgestone R500HD for towing and couldn't love them much more. Many guys around me were running Michelins but I got better treadwear and spent considerably less. I had good luck getting around in some pretty good snow with them in 4wd when the tires were in the first half of the treadwear. After the tread was worn down to about half they got a little slick to get much traction, but that was after about 100k miles so it didn't really break my heart. I'm talking about a dually but a few years ago I ran the same tire on a SRW 3500 and really liked them on it too.

I don't know how long I can take the Goodyear A/T's on the new ride. The squishy feel I can deal with for a while but they're certainly some rock throwing bastards. I don't know how long I'm going to put up with that.

 

In my experience you're going to get that squishy feeling with just about any A/T. They'll be pretty decent for a little offroad and nasty conditions but to get that good highway handling you're looking for when towing a load, you won't beat a good H/T. I've ran Bridgestone R500HD for towing and couldn't love them much more. Many guys around me were running Michelins but I got better treadwear and spent considerably less. I had good luck getting around in some pretty good snow with them in 4wd when the tires were in the first half of the treadwear. After the tread was worn down to about half they got a little slick to get much traction, but that was after about 100k miles so it didn't really break my heart. I'm talking about a dually but a few years ago I ran the same tire on a SRW 3500 and really liked them on it too.

I don't know how long I can take the Goodyear A/T's on the new ride. The squishy feel I can deal with for a while but they're certainly some rock throwing bastards. I don't know how long I'm going to put up with that.

Agreed. Pulling heavier trailers with AT’s will give you that squishy feeling in the curves or in big wind. The Toyo AT3’s that I’m running are a little squishy but not bad. Still not as stable as a set of HT’s. I’ve tried Ridge Grapplers and Toyo RT’s and those were pretty stable towing but they sucked in the snow. Falken Wildpeaks we’re probably best all around (snow traction, wear and pretty solid towing). If you want to run AT’s, you’ll get used to the squish after a while. They also seem to firm up as they wear down. Slowing down just a bit helps too.

 

One thing to remember is that 265's have a minimum wheel width of 7". My 2008 CCLB 3/4 ton came with 6 1/2" wheels and I switched to the larger 1 ton stock steel wheels since running the 265's. The 6 1/2" wheel makes the tread more rounded, maybe even less road contact vs 7".

 

Been running Michelins on mine since the factory junk tires wore out (completely bald) at 28,000 miles. I've towed 10k+ lbs loads thousands and thousands of miles. Even towed 13k lbs load over 1,000 miles. Never experienced what you have with the BFG. The Michelins are good for about 60k miles and at 422k miles, I've been thru a few sets of them.

 

Would love to know how you're repeatedly getting 60k out of your Michelins as they are by far my first choice. I put on a set of Michelins like every other vehicle I've had and they were great. Rotated every 5K, always properly inflated and aligned. Wore all four down perfectly to the wear indicators in a little over 35k. To the OP- like others said, I'd ditch the BFGs. When I bought my '06 CCab (2nd owner) it had four virtually new BFGs on it and they were dreadful even not pulling my 20' enclosed car trailer, squishy and unpredictable even trying various different pressures. And BTW to others- also suggest staying away from Goodyear Wranglers w/ Kevlar, was supposed to be the "top of the GY line" according to the tire shop I went to. Bought four of them to replace a set of worn out Bridgstones and they were fine for about 20k. After that wet weather traction went away and they were downright dangerous to drive, even had the back end cut loose in wet weather a few times just moderately accelerating to merge on to the interstate, no fun in the rain. Gave them away with about 60% tread left. Currently back to running Bridgestones and they're ok but really want to go back to Michelin..............

 

X3 on the Cooper AT3s but I’m not a heavy hauler. Loaded camper and all was maybe 8000lbs. Have run 265s on the stock 2500 wheels with no issues for over 6 years…. Not saying that makes it right, just my experience.


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The Cooper AT3’s are on my short list for sure but if they don’t work as well as the Michelin’s when towing, I’m not sure I would go that route. Glad to hear that my thinking, and research thus far, is on par with what everyone is saying here, so far.

 

I have AT3’s on my new one and had Michelin’s on my Ford. I think if I had to do it over again I’d buy another set of Michelin’s as I feel they have better road manners. I might try running higher pressure since Ryan says he’s running 80psi and I’ve had mine at 60 front and 65 rear.

 

FWIW, I had Hankook Dynapro AT2's on my LMM and I was really happy with them both towing and not. They were also good for snow packed roads, but I never pulled with my truck in the snow, either.

 

FWIW, I had Hankook Dynapro AT2's on my LMM

This is what I have on my truck right now. I don't have a comparison but they seem to tow my 11k 5th wheel great and feel very stable.

 

2021 Sierra AT4 diesel

I use the original equalizer hitch. Equal-i-zer® Hitch | The Original Sway Control and Weight Distribution Hitch

Drove from Utah out to Missouri to buy a new RPOD 202 (approx 5,000 lbs) travel trailer in February.

I replaced the factory GY Trail Hawk tires with BFG KO2s. I prefer KO2s on my Jeep and Truck.

PSI running out and back on that trip was set at 40. No problem hauling trailer back and I was flying on I-40 passing trucks at over 80 MPH at times.

Now the weather has warmed up the PSI is set to 55. No problems hauling the trailer around either.

Before you toss the tire try running it at 55-60 PSI instead of 80.

Molon Labe

 

2021 Sierra AT4 diesel

I use the original equalizer hitch. Equal-i-zer® Hitch | The Original Sway Control and Weight Distribution Hitch

Drove from Utah out to Missouri to buy a new RPOD 202 (approx 5,000 lbs) travel trailer in February.

I replaced the factory GY Trail Hawk tires with BFG KO2s. I prefer KO2s on my Jeep and Truck.

PSI running out and back on that trip was set at 40. No problem hauling trailer back and I was flying on I-40 passing trucks at over 80 MPH at times.

Now the weather has warmed up the PSI is set to 55. No problems hauling the trailer around either.

Before you toss the tire try running it at 55-60 PSI instead of 80.

Molon Labe

What's the thought process behind a lower pressure though? Why wouldn't you want more air pressure to stiffen the sidewalls and prevent the squishy feeling? And running that low of pressure is going to heat those tires up much faster, isn't it?

 

My current Cooper AT3 LTX's are doing very well carrying 3,200 lbs in the box. My previous Michelin AT2's handled well, but the tread was used up within 30,000 miles. Rear tires at 80 psi and fronts at 68 psi. Your only running 70 psi under load is causing your squirmy feeling, along with BFG's with soft tread.

 

I always have run the bfgs at 80 psi when towing. I ran the Michelin’s that I had last summer at 70.

I did have a set of the Michelin LTX AT/2s on my old 1/2 ton and loved them but never towed anything but a small/light snowmobile trailer with that truck.

 

Well, I don't haul heavy, but to give you another option, I'm running the Michelin Agilis Cross climate tires. They were a huge improvement over the SRAs that came with the truck. They do have a bit of a winter rating to them. Granted, I'm dealing with NJ winters, so it's not as bad as what you have to deal with.

 

At this point, as much as I dislike the tread pattern on the Michelin’s that I had on the truck last summer (LTX A/Ss) I also know they were the real deal when pulling the camper. Part of me is a little cautious about spending another $1000 to buy a set of tires that don’t tow like the Michelin’s. I hate the thought of having two sets of tires for this truck right now too. Uggh. Decisions!

Thanks for the input so far though and keep it coming! 🍺

 

ChevyTech77, My tire size is LT285/75R16 and I'm currently running Nitto RidgeGrapplers but they are starting to get noisy and they suck in snow! I'm leaning towards Falken Wildpeak AT3W tires as a replacement since they have the 3MPSF rating...

 

Do it they are fantastic! I have them on my truck and I’ve sold them to at least 30 customers. Great feedback from all Of them so far.

 

I had bfg Ko2’s on my f150 and they didn’t wander at all. 20” wheel with 50 profile. Got really noisy at 40,000 miles and got rid of them with plenty of life left. Went to revo3 on 18” wheel with 70 profile and got some wander. Tires were waaaaay quieter than Bfg but gave up traction in mud which I could live with.

Running a higher profile tire like a 75 may be contributing to your problem. Consider 65 or 70 on your next set.


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Time to bring the old thread some attention

Bridgestone Duravis R500

Anybody run these? I read reports of them running 100k miles. I've tried 4 different tires and everything I try lasts about 35k miles.... I thinking of giving these a shot...

www.duramaxforum.com

 

Looks like mostly talk about how long they last. Really, that part doesn’t concern me. Heard good things about those tires though.

 

I tow daily but it isn’t a heavy load. The OEM Goodyear’s are quiet, good in rain/ snow but don’t track as well as I would like. Less than 4,000 miles so no idea on durability. I know everybody hates them.

I’m considering replacing with Fallen Wildpeak at3 or Cooper Discoverer at3’s. I want good road manners ( QUIET, track well, good in wet and snow) with sufficient tread to avoid getting stuck is the greasy mud we get here in TX.

Will tow a 10-12k TT a couple times a year but more focused on the daily driving duties mentioned above. Not looking to get high mileage, 40-50k mile life is fine by me.

Reading others comments, both of these seem to have good reports.

Anybody have experience with both of these options that can compare and contrast? Especially noise levels?

Thanks in advance!


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A lot of traction issue with these trucks can be overcome by weighting down the rear. Empty your pushing a 4000 pound front end with a 2500 pound rear.

 

So when I bought my truck, it had some 60K mile old Michelin LTX A/S tires in the factory 245/75R16 Load E on it. Last fall, I swapped those out for brand new 265/75R16 Load E BFG A/T KO2s.

I pulled my 4500 lb enclosed snowmobile trailer around a few times this winter without issue. That trailer is 25’ long and usually runs right around 600-650 lbs of tongue weight. I don’t use any WD or sway control on it.

Fast forward to Memorial Day weekend and the first real haul of the wife’s 7,000 lb 30’ travel trailer. Running about 900-950 lbs tongue weight with the same Reese Dual Cam WD and sway control that I’ve had on all of our travel trailers including this one last summer.

The truck walked around on the tires something fierce. A lot like the past three half ton trucks that I’ve pulled our travel trailers with. Not confidence inspiring AT ALL. In a 10-15 mph wind it was everything I could do at times to keep everything on the road. Trailer wasn’t swaying, the truck just felt “mushy” Tires were inflated up to 80 psi cold, as well. I couldn’t even run the Michelin’s that high because it would ride so rough that it would beat your teeth out. I usually ran those down around 70 psi cold, when towing

No changes to the trailer load out.

Truck got new tie rods, idler and pitman this spring and wheel alignment back to where it was last summer.

No other changes to the truck other than tires.

In my over 25 years experience wrenching, I’ve never personally had to fix this sort of thing. All I have is big box tire stores around me so I don’t really trust any of the advice that I get from them (long stories to tell on that deal) so I’m looking to see what the haulers of the DF can share with me. I would go back to the Michelin’s but I need a beefier/more aggressive tread than that for my winter “excursions” that I sometimes get myself into. At this point I would also just like to keep the stock wheels and suspension on the truck as well. I’m probably missing something so if I am, ask away. Otherwise, let’s here what you’re running and your experiences.

Don't blame the tire manufacturer. You bought a tire not designed for your truck, wheel width and suspension.The tire is too tall for the stock rims! ( Made 5he same mistake🤕. my problem is I have an 07 LT and would cost a lot to find a wider rim for my 16s. But I did buy 10ply Bridgestones that somewhat equalize the issue. Originally just wanted the look of filling up the wheel well but ended up screwing up mileage, performance and handling. The factory really does know what's best.

 

Well I have a 2004.5 6in lift running 37-12.50 brand name radars mt. On set of 22x12 fuel wheels I put them on at 290k I am at 340k with just over Harld tread life left. Perfect for highway. Excellent in mud. And snow. Took black beauty to Colorado for Xmas with 30k miles on them tires and would grab all day long in 12in of snow. On high way she has not sway. I pulled my 1998 nomad pos trailer. Tongue weight about 800-900. (She is old made the old way) no sway bars just a bumper pull from fort worth to Lubbock in 10-20 mph winds and heavy and light rain. If I was not texting it was straight as an arrow but when I Was texting then I was swaying.

 

So when I bought my truck, it had some 60K mile old Michelin LTX A/S tires in the factory 245/75R16 Load E on it. Last fall, I swapped those out for brand new 265/75R16 Load E BFG A/T KO2s.

I pulled my 4500 lb enclosed snowmobile trailer around a few times this winter without issue. That trailer is 25’ long and usually runs right around 600-650 lbs of tongue weight. I don’t use any WD or sway control on it.

Fast forward to Memorial Day weekend and the first real haul of the wife’s 7,000 lb 30’ travel trailer. Running about 900-950 lbs tongue weight with the same Reese Dual Cam WD and sway control that I’ve had on all of our travel trailers including this one last summer.

The truck walked around on the tires something fierce. A lot like the past three half ton trucks that I’ve pulled our travel trailers with. Not confidence inspiring AT ALL. In a 10-15 mph wind it was everything I could do at times to keep everything on the road. Trailer wasn’t swaying, the truck just felt “mushy” Tires were inflated up to 80 psi cold, as well. I couldn’t even run the Michelin’s that high because it would ride so rough that it would beat your teeth out. I usually ran those down around 70 psi cold, when towing

No changes to the trailer load out.

Truck got new tie rods, idler and pitman this spring and wheel alignment back to where it was last summer.

No other changes to the truck other than tires.

In my over 25 years experience wrenching, I’ve never personally had to fix this sort of thing. All I have is big box tire stores around me so I don’t really trust any of the advice that I get from them (long stories to tell on that deal) so I’m looking to see what the haulers of the DF can share with me. I would go back to the Michelin’s but I need a beefier/more aggressive tread than that for my winter “excursions” that I sometimes get myself into. At this point I would also just like to keep the stock wheels and suspension on the truck as well. I’m probably missing something so if I am, ask away. Otherwise, let’s here what you’re running and your experiences.

I put a set of BFG on my 2017…. great tires, would purchase again.

 

Love my 20" Michelin LTX AT/2s. On third set. Never got less than 60K out of them. Always towed great as well. Definite highway/local tire. Probably not as good as some more aggressive tread tires in the mud and snow.

 

I run Falken WILDPEAK A/T3W and have scaled 29,000lb + on several occations hauling sand in the dump trail. Aired to 80 PSI, they are solid performers. Currently, I am at 40,000 miles on them and will buy another set before next winter. Speaking of winter, they do awesome in the snow.

WC

 

I towed professionally cross country for several years, everything from toy haulers to big park models. The only tire that worked for me on my '07 LBZ 2500HD was the 265/75/16E Michelin LTX MS2 on factory alloys. I got 94,000 on the first set and 92,000 on the second set. The truck came with Bridgestone Revos and I could not wait to get them off. The trick is to constantly monitor your air pressure, 80psi loaded, 70psi empty. Other haulers would buy a cheaper tire but they never got the mileage or handling. The ones that switched to the Michelins reported that they were getting close to the mileages that I had mentioned with better control. I always ran air bags (Airlift) but seldom used a WDH, only when the company mandated and I never had any control issues, even in 20mph winds, company limit was 25mph. Most of the professional haulers will run a premium tire, better reliability with less down time and a better quality ride with improved.
control.
I'm sure that there are a lot of guys on here running something other than Michelins and they probably work O.K. for them but from someone who hauled professionally, the Michelin LTX MS2 is hard to beat I tried the AT on my '03 Duramax towing one time and was not happy with it.

 

thanks for this information. I run Cooper AT3 265/75r16 load E on my 07 LBZ towing a 39’ Torque T333 bumper pull toy hauler (12k loaded) using an Equalizer 14k WD hitch. I do not like how these tires handle, the truck wanders, feels mushy, and generally handles poorly. So, I will be looking to move to the Michelins!