Shoot, my 2018 All-Terrain HD is 1,984lb. It hasn’t been an issue for me yet, but that was something simple I overlooked after all the research I’d done before hand. I would have had the same thoughts and been as surprised as you.

 

Do you have a pic of the sticker? That doesn't seem right. Not calling you a liar, jist curious what all the numbers are

 

I’m gonna say you need to check your numbers again because there is no way you have the same payload as a 1/2 ton.

 

I can’t speak for the 2020’s, but for the earlier models, it’s absolutely possible. Depending on options packages, payload numbers for 1/2 & 3/4 tons can definitely overlap.

 

1595 payload

 

Welp. There ya have it. Whats the cab configuration? CCSB?

I know it sucks to say being a brand new truck, but why don't you go to a spring shop and have them add another leaf? Or get some air bags. That way you'll keep the ride quality but get the few extra pounds.

 

LOL, that doesn't change the number that's on the sticker

 

I think it’s government regulation not to exceed 10,000lbs gvwr , so you end up witha payload less the weight of the truck, but in reality it can hold much more, check out the front and rear axle ratings and we know the rear tires are good for 7500 lbs , 11,990 with both axles curb weight is 8305 leaving 3685lbs spread across both axles. The rear could safely take two thirds of the 3685lbs, like 2300lbs, not sure but remember an RV guy telling me to worry more about the axle ratings

 

Because a "RV guy" has a clue about GVW's. They're the same idiots that say any trailer on there lot is 1/2 ton towable.

 

So your saying that if I take my 19ft toyhauler, load it up with gear, put a full tank of fuel in the truck, and put my wife and the dogs in, id be at max payload.[emoji23][emoji23]

Why have a diesel at that point when you can’t even use it to it’s potential??

 

If you want to worry about numbers and payload and are dead set on a 3/4t truck, better buy a gasser. Not breaking news here.

 

I didn’t realize people actually gave a shit what the sticker says. You can learn something new everyday around here.

 

I forgot they had stickers with “recommendations”. If I need to put something in the bed, it goes in the bed. Lawyers make them go way under what the truck could do safely because of guys like me who “forget” there are recommendations. Numbers worriers probably also don’t exceed the speed limit because that’s unsafe of swerve across the yellow line to avoid potholes because that’s unsafe and never follow closer than 4.5 seconds and follow every other rule in the drivers safety’s manual. I hauled 3 tons in my 78 and it didn’t have near the braking capability or power that modern trucks have. 4000 lbs is nothing for a 3/4 ton truck no matter what stickers it has on it. It’s not a Honda Ridgeline for cryin out loud

 

You can choose the GVRW
10k, 10.6k, and 11,350 lbs. GVWR

My brother's sticker on his AT-4 says 3,152 lb cargo.

Definitely the nicest truck I've ever been in my life

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That was one thing that impressed me about the new 2020 2500’s is the ability to get a GVW rating higher than 10k. The only reason I can think of to get a 9900lb gvw now is if it offered any benefit to registration cost.

 

Short answer is, buy a 3500. Problem solved.

 

Agreed; although as mentioned above I think you can get an 11,xxx GVW on a 2500 now.

 

For starters the manufacturers all deduct 150 lbs per passenger seat with a truck. That is why the highest payload capacity is always for the regular cab trucks. The payload is also a calculated rating based on how the truck was configured when it left the factory. Often the wheels and tires are the limiting factor and my 2011 2500HD had a greater factory payload rating at 2800 lbs than most of the 3500 trucks on the dealer lots.

The axles are rated at 11,000 lbs and the same ones are use on the 2500 and 3500 trucks. What is different is the leaf springs and the wheels and the tires. I swapped out the factory tires for Nitto ones and gained 1100 lbs of payload capacity at the rear axle. I added a double leaf set of SuperSprings and gained another 1400 lbs of load capacity. With a 4000 lb load in the bed the truck sits dead level and there is no sway in the curves.

I could gain even more payload capacity if I was willing to spend $3500 on a set of 19.5 wheels and tires for the truck but it is not really needed.

 

For starters the manufacturers all deduct 150 lbs per passenger seat with a truck. That is why the highest payload capacity is always for the regular cab trucks. The payload is also a calculated rating based on how the truck was configured when it left the factory. Often the wheels and tires are the limiting factor and my 2011 2500HD had a greater factory payload rating at 2800 lbs than most of the 3500 trucks on the dealer lots.

The axles are rated at 11,000 lbs and the same ones are use on the 2500 and 3500 trucks. What is different is the leaf springs and the wheels and the tires. I swapped out the factory tires for Nitto ones and gained 1100 lbs of payload capacity at the rear axle. I added a double leaf set of SuperSprings and gained another 1400 lbs of load capacity. With a 4000 lb load in the bed the truck sits dead level and there is no sway in the curves.

I could gain even more payload capacity if I was willing to spend $3500 on a set of 19.5 wheels and tires for the truck but it is not really needed.

You gained no capacity rating from Super Springs. I agree with you on the tire ratings being a limiting factor; the 265/60R20’s on my 2018 only carry a 3,195lb rating.

 

The reason a regular cab has a higher payload is they're lighter to start with like a gasser or a 2wd.

 

Payload capacity on my 2020 GMC 2500 AT4 CCSB is 3161 lbs. Gooseneck max tongue weight is 2775 lbs.

 

Dang; payload numbers on the new 2020 2500HD’s are really impressive!

 

I don't have a picture handy but the GVWR on my 2020 CCLB is 11,550 pounds, it depends on how you option the truck!

 

That’s a big advantage to the 2020’s and beyond; the ability to get an 11,xxx GVW. Didn’t have that in 2019 or before.

 

The lack of clarity on these ratings is ridiculous.

I have spent an inordinate amount of time running down my 16 single rear wheel lml ratings.

One would think GVCRW of 26k minus the truck (8k) would equ max fifth wheel capacity. Not according to the manual.

These ratings could use some better real world context.

 

Here is mine. 2020 AT4 cclb with the 20 inch wheel.

 

 

this is a hard lesson that many learn first hand. More than likely the 9900 lbs GVWR is for registration purposes and the truck can handle more payload.
full disclosure. I am not an engineer...

 

Good read for me this morning. Didn’t realize there are this many variations. Never thought to look at the sticker on my truck, if it fits it ships!

 

I have a 2020 GMC Sierra 2500hd at4. The payload on the sticker in the door jam says 3154lbs.

 

Have looked at a couple new 2500's and the payload sticker show 3154 lbs. The sales folks are clueless about this stuff.

Understand the wheels and tires are a factor, but what options do I want to watch out for?

Thinking I want to stay with the 18" tires versus the 20" to keep the height the same for towing the 5th wheel.

Thanks,

 

My AT4 has every possible option like the Denali. I haven't had any issues with anything. This thing is incredible. I tow a 5th and the 20s aren't too high, IMO. However, with the 20s, it barely (2 or 3 inches) fits in my garage. But, yeah, there's nothing I'd change, although I only have 3500 miles. So, it's probably too soon to tell. So far, it's pure awesome. I came from a 2nd Gen Cummins, though. So, the transition is more drastic than most. Good luck.

 

My 2020 Denali

GVWR 11,350lbs
GCWR 27,500lbs
Payload 3,149lbs

Blows my old Ford away i know that