I've never had it but heard good things about kryptonites I think I got the spelling right. If you feel like spending the money

 

Checked a few sites yesterday, no prices, supposed to be out last year, this year who knows. Truck has 50,000 on it and damn the center link sure moves at the idler arm and shaft when I had it jacked up. Maybe get another 20,000 miles out of them, or not.. The idler shaft they have on their site looks a lot like the SUPERSTEER and within $10.00, call it ours when we stick a sticker on it.....

 

I've seen it for sale in three places including Jegs.

 

Here...

Rare Parts RP20609, Rare Parts Idler and Pitman Arms | Rare Parts

http://performancelifts.com/Rare-Parts-Extreme-Duty-Idler-Arm-20608.html

The second link is like $2 cheaper after a coupon and shipping.

I'll look at Mike's site now - I didn't know he had a heavy duty pitman out. TNX

 

am I missing something? I see no Kryptonite pitman on Mike's site. Maybe you meant idler by mistake? Thanks anyway!!

 

The pitman arm is a toss up, 3 or 4 spline, do you have the old Saginaw box or the 670-680 box which I believe came equipped on the 2007 and later trucks with the new body change.

 

from what I've read, if you have a dmax pickup truck it's almost 100% that you have 3 splines. IIRC when I did my Moog it was 3. I suppose I could remove the locknut and Cognito brace on there now and have a look for sure.

 

from what I've read, if you have a dmax pickup truck it's almost 100% that you have 3 splines. IIRC when I did my Moog it was 3. I suppose I could remove the locknut and Cognito brace on there now and have a look for sure.

I have a core Saginaw/Delphi box in the garage, I'll check it in a bit.


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So back to the subj... better than Moog and cheaper than PPE? HmmMMmm

 

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That's a Henderson Super Steer. I've had one for years; love it. It's obviously for the idler only though.

 

bump does anyone know if the rare parts extreme pitman and ider arm will work with cognito braces? and how do they match up against moog problem solver?

 

Contact Rare Part 1-800-621-2005

You can email them and see what they tell you. They have been very responsive when I've had technical questions with my suspension.

 

im looking for more of a personal experence than to hear a sales rep trying to sell me their product .

 

I posed the same question to them, and they said that it will... with a slight modification to the attachment. You'll need to shim the brace out a bit to clear the arm. They sent me a shim (washer) and a belleville washer to complete this task. I am hoping to install everything this week and provide pictures. Here's their pic from in the shop:

 

Rare parts sent you the washer and shim?

 

yup. I owe them some pics ASAP though!

 

So how do the general public get these? Call?

 

I'd start there. Either you can get them from Rare or they can give you the specs to source them from someone like McMaster.

 

Great that was my next question!

 

I hope to have it on and pics tomorrow after work

 

Can't wait for the pics. Did you get both arms?

 

No, I bought the Ultimate Idler Arm... it's HUGE, a bargain, and I noticed an immediate improvement over the old Moog!

 

Nice. The pisk does not work on the ultimate idler arm correct? I assume you are going to run it on the pitman?

 

yeah the brace doesn't work on the Ultimate (but if you ever held one, you'd know that you don't need it, lol -- HUGE!). I yanked the idler brace when I did the swap, and now I'll re-use it on the pitman since I have it already.

 

im a bit confused if i were to do just the pitman and ider arm with the stock idler support will the cognito pisk work?

 

let me know how its goes! i am in the process of ordering all the parts but not sure if to go with rare parts or moog

 

Fyi..... Moog has a new HD pitman arm also now. I am leaning towards the rare parts

 

Do they look suspiciously like a rareparts replacement, similar to the supersteer idler support that rareparts now has...?? Kinda like the kryptonite that looks a lot like the supersteer.

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good to hear, did you notice a big difference in design vs oem or whatever you her before?

 

got my ass kicked last night. The Moog pitman was a BITCH. I finally got it off. The Rare slipped on the box but I couldn't get it on the drag link. So, I popped the drag link off the idler arm (I did the idler swap a few weeks ago and it was a piece of cake).

Now the pitman is on...I can't get the idler back into the drag link. FML. I'm going to try jacking up the front end to move the wheel and assy around and see if I can get it. If not, I have to pop off the tie rod and try that.

BTW - the thread on the Rare is different than the Moog. My cognito insert will not work. I seem to recall that Cognito included two differently pitched threads... dunno if I can find it. So if I can't then the brace will have to go on after I source a replacement.

 

keep me updated!