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A sensitive issue... "Rolling Coal"

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“The air sucks anyway,” said Ben Poncher, who was drinking a beer next to the track. “Smoke’s pretty. I like seeing it.”

This is why the diesel scene gets a bad rep. Thanks to people like Ben and as the reporter completely uneducated on the topic.
 
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I really hate articles like these. They even included Calibrated Power's "Clean Sweep" truck in the article and did nothing to talk about it and what they're doing to bring "clean" power to the diesel scene.
I really hate living in Texas because of all the idiots who think "its sick/cool" to dump a bunch of coal and go nowhere fast.
 
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It's only a matter of time before our hobby/sport or whatever you call it is completely gone.


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I don't think it's gone, but I think it's going to change. I looked up video of Clean Sweep, tuned by DT. Nick said that the performance diesel was changing, from full deletes to emissions compliant. Clean Sweep was a good example, sitting at around 620hp on the dyno with all emissions intact and zero smoke.

While the press definitely sucks and the scrutiny to diesels, I'm glad that DT has actually proven it's possible to increase our power levels, and not need to worry about who's near the tailpipe when we get on the skinny. I hope that others like Kory and Rob are able to do the same. If I can avoid removing my emissions, stay smoke free, AND enjoy all the benefits of making more power to my truck, then what are we really loosing?
 
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The only thing I can see that we are losing is efficiency and longevity through the EGR. I know I'm preaching to the choir here, but I just deleted my EGR on my LBZ and I can't for the life of me see how those things are good for our engines. I blocked mine at 40K and it was still terrible. From what I hear, the DPFs have come a long way on the LMLs and I don't think I would have a problem leaving it on a tuned emissions intact pickup. I think Nick is right in saying that's the way the industry is heading, unfortunately. I'm no expert by any means so I may be all wet. Just my opinion.


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Lol your "sport" has driven the cost of diesel trucks up for the people who actually use them as intended...not as next gen ricers. In the 00s it was civics, in the 10s it's diesel trucks.
 
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Wait, SEMA isn't a sport? :farmer
 
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^^^^^bwarren is right. Although "to each his own" But if you look at it that way then Passenger cars were meant to be passenger cars. Its always fun to step outside the box.
 
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"A group of Canadian cyclists touring the Vermont countryside in June was on the receiving end of a coal roller’s attention. A white pickup truck accelerated, then belched on the bikers, said John Gelder, a management consultant based in Ottawa.

Several minutes later, the truck returned to smoke them out a second time"

Yet environmentalists receive the blame....

Yea, I've been "rolled" on too (I even hate to say it, how childish can one be really?), don't think it's an image the diesel community as a whole wants to have attached to it really.

On an unrelated note, that Shane fellow running a duramax in an f250, why isn't there a law against that for cruel and unusual punishment to a duramax?




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Personally and it is my opinion: While I do not like the emission equipment that they currently have because of its use of DEF, I am a believer that rolling coal in a Duramax is not cool. Some drivers around me in traffic tend to roll their windows up thinking that they are about be smoked. I think coal rolling behavior will lead to more regulation on both the Federal and State level.

The county that I live in has emissions systems monitoring however, I am currently exempt due to the weight that I register my truck for (10,000LBS and over no testing). My concern is that the so called coal rollers will target the wrong person and force legislation that will become more costly for all including those who abide by the rules. A vast majority of the offenders drive one brand of truck and they tend too also be the biggest dinks on the road.

I think that we can have our hobby if like every other group of hobbyist's else we self regulate it and remove the offenders by exposing them to the appropriate authorities.

Just my 2 cents
 
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It going to change "diesel movement if you will" just like hot rodding did after they changed the smog lawsin the early 80's here to 75' and earlier. Compucam started making smog legal cam grinds for us here in Cali and other states with stiff smog laws. You guys out in the Midwest and east have to realize us guys in California have been dealing with C.A.R.B California Air Research Board and AQMD Air Quality Management District and who knows what other entity has been trying to make our lives miserable for a long time.
There will always be a way around it. These tuners out there will be help us Diesel Guys out. Ive been Hot Rodding too long to have a few idiots take my fun away.
 
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Yeah I had Rob's emissions intact tuning on my LMM and they were great too.


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Perhaps after all of my warranties are gone, I may follow suit and tune this truck with emissions intact. When I do have it done, I will visit with a Idaho Rob who has his business about 20 minutes from me and I will surely speak with Nick @ duramax tuner.

I happen to appreciate not having black walls in my garage and also being community friendly with my truck where ever I travel.
 
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Do it! It's a completely different truck now in a good way.


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